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Old 02-07-2024, 11:09 AM   #1
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What is Truth and Fact? but what the individual can accept as such. What you project is yours only....
Oh come on Frank! This may be the definition of "truth" but "fact" will eventually step up and hit you right square in the face.;-)
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Not sure if I should comment or not. Almost stopped reading when the childish taunts came out.

As for being entry level, well I'm in the process of building my first stocker after bracket racing all my life, it is not cheap or easy. Entry level though is only a comparison to other NHRA classes. So the real question is, what is the cheapest class to go NHRA racing?
Stock is NOT it.
I say this because it would of been easier/cheaper to throw a 460/c6 in my fox body and go 10.90 racing. Already have lots of stuff lying around. Heck, throw a ls in it for even cheaper! I love bracket racing and consider stock, the pinnacle (to me). I have zero interest in top fool or other heads up wallet races. Yes I have "junk" and will struggle to hit the index and I'm ok with that.

So, in my opinion, stock is not an "entry level" class, however, the lower classes are "entry level to stock"
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Old 02-07-2024, 02:49 PM   #3
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So, in my opinion, stock is not an "entry level" class, however, the lower classes are "entry level to stock"
How about we expound on this, which is ,in fact, the subject of this thread.
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How about we expound on this, which is ,in fact, the subject of this thread.
That's essentially what I said a bit ago. I agree with the statement.
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Old 02-07-2024, 05:08 PM   #5
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Super street is the beginner class as far as NHRA divisional or national events are concerned. Pretty much any super pro bracket car can compete in super street. There is very few rules. Any engine in any bodied car is legal. You have to meet the safety requirements but you also need to meet them at the bracket races too. You have to meet the minimum weight which I think is around 2800 lbs. Biggest difference in S/ST and bracket is the pro tree. Your car has to leave hard enough to cut the light. Then you have to run the number. Better be .010 and dead on to beat the hitters in that class. A good back half car with a fairly good small block could be a contender with a good driver.
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Super street is the beginner class as far as NHRA divisional or national events are concerned.
Where does the NHRA state that?
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Old 02-07-2024, 07:12 PM   #7
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It appears this thread went downhill pretty quick, going from opinions on an entry level class, to a d--k measuring contest.

For what it's worth, from a bracket racer who plans to jump into super stock neck deep this season. My plan from years ago had been to get into super street. It appeared I could turn a bracket car into super street much easier, (not saying I'd be very competitive), than building/buying a car, jumping into stock or super stock, or other .90 classes, with my limited knowledge of the classes and my very limited knowledge on making a class car competitive against others within the same index. I expect the competition in any class/category to be tough, but IMO, getting a car to run in a class appears a little more forgiving with super street, from rules/restrictions perspective. If I'm wrong, please correct me, as I have yet to run an NHRA class, aside from pro/super pro at bracket races.

Regarding how this thread, and some others, seem to devolve into something far from its intention, (crank measuring contest), maybe there should be a place on this forum, maybe the Lounge, where folks can go to talk trash and air their grievances towards each other.

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Where does the NHRA state that?
I don’t think NHRA actually calls it a beginner class. Maybe that was the wrong choice of words. Let’s just say it is probably the simplest class to get involved if you already have a car that will run 10.90 and want to join in and race the division and national events.
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How about we expound on this, which is ,in fact, the subject of this thread.
Mark,
If you re-read my first few posts of the U/SA thread, this essentially what this is
about. See post # 30
But what I have learned by following that thread is that if you want to be top dog in any class you need to spend the time and the money to achieve that, even thought it's the lowest V8 class in Stock eliminator. There are some serious competitors in U/SA.
Being a dedicated A/SA racer for some time I invested significant resources into my program, by alas it's the same for every class. A through Z
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What would be the difference in cost of a Brad Van Lant '71 340 or a '65 273? Plus a ProTrans 904?

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