Entry level class?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Disagree and apparently many stock eliminators disagree as well being that the Big 3 have sold in excess of $250,000,000 factory built stock eliminator cars to date.
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Ed, this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ has nothing to do with what I said! I SAID that you can buy one and just go racing and be under the index but you won't be competitive. Now you apparently understand numbers but not the English language so why don't you humor an old man and tell him in numbers just how many of those $250M worth of "factory stock eliminator cars" are raced in their as-sold condition? How many have been bought and put into collections, never to be raced? More than you think.

[1320racer]

says a life long jealous, D-bag LOSER who just registered here as El Duderino to bait me!

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

tell him in numbers just how many of those $250M worth of "factory stock eliminator cars" are raced in their as-sold condition? How many have been bought and put into collections, never to be raced? More than you think.

Billy, I don't know and neither do you but the fact remains, that despite you not liking it nor liking where stock eliminator has gone and continues to go, the truth is it's never been easier to compete in stock eliminator with the introduction of factory race cars. That said, there was a time where STOCK production cars competed right off the showroom floor making it an entry level class and it's still today with these factory cars in my opinion and many others that I have spoken to over the years, including current stock racers.

[Glenn Briglio]

Damn the never ending thread............ I'm going to have to make more popcorn.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

Damn the never ending thread............ I'm going to have to make more popcorn.

Glenn save some for me! This is certainly one of the more amusing threads in a while especially with opinions coming in from people that have not raced in both classes. That being said I have raced in both SST and Stock. I believe the intent of both was for them both to be entry level but for various reasons neither are now. The expense of Stock has turned it into anything but entry level and various rule changes and technology has made it even worse. Same goes for SST, with the invention of the throttle stop SST went from taking your 10.70 bracket car to you better bring a purpose built 9.50 or better car if you want to be competitive.
So the real answer here is there are no entry level categories anymore and eventually that will be an issue in keeping all of these categories alive.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by HR9121

there are no entry level categories anymore and eventually that will be an issue in keeping all of these categories alive.

That I can get behind and stock will die long before S/ST based on the current median age and lack of young racers coming into the class.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

That I can get behind and stock will die long before S/ST based on the current median age and lack of young racers coming into the class.

There ya go! THE END

[1320racer]

I knew we could find common ground

I won't call stock entry level if you/they don't call S/ST entry level.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

That I can get behind and stock will die long before S/ST based on the current median age and lack of young racers coming into the class.

I guess that's possible also but being the Gators quota filled up before it actually opened this year I don't see it anytime in the foreseeable future. But honestly Ed looking around the staging lanes at a NHRA event I don't see a lot of young bucks in any of the categories other than the kids of current racers. I myself am a first generation racer in my family but I was practically raised around it since quite a few of my friends parents raced.

[1320racer]

age of NHRA racers is a huge problem for them and the survival of class racing. As previously I previously stated...

Originally Posted by 1320racer

in 10 years from now, stock, super stock, comp will be decimated due to the large loss of racers. Just walk their lanes at any divisional starting next month and start counting the racers that will be retired from racing or dead by then. The numbers should scare you.

but that's another topic for another day.