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Old 03-11-2024, 05:19 PM   #1
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Default Re: Beware of Summit Branded braided hose!!!

Fuel line leaks have happened to me at least 3 times in the past 20 years. Racing fuel was in the bladder during winter storage in a heated building. I went to start car in the spring…and voila fuel on the floor. I had to change all the lines from bladder to carb…time consuming and pricey.I would not fault Summit,Jegs or Earl’s. I would fault racing fuel. Since these occurrences, I have totally emptied the bladder and lines during winter storage for the last 10 years. So far…it’s working.
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Old 03-11-2024, 05:35 PM   #2
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I would not fault Summit,Jegs or Earl’s. I would fault racing fuel. Since these occurrences, I have totally emptied the bladder and lines during winter storage for the last 10 years. So far…it’s working.
Disagree! I have never emptied my fuel system in any of my 3 race cars in over 30 years and I’ve never had a leaking hose nor fitting..
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Old 03-11-2024, 05:37 PM   #3
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https://proshop.summitracing.com/parts/sum-220890b

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Old 03-11-2024, 06:45 PM   #4
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I just called the Pro shop and asked if they are off shore and the answer was YES!
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Old 03-11-2024, 07:15 PM   #5
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I have always used Earl's for my race car plumbing - and they have generally been very reliable.... I did have hoses spring leaks twice - both times it was fuel lines. Once # 10 main feed and the other a # 8 return line from the pump. Both lines were at least 10 years old maybe a few more than that. I have always run VP C-11 fuel in the class cars. Both times the leaks sprung after the car was stored for the winter. Anyway - does make me think its the fuels we use.
So here is an interesting observation - In the dragster I run C-14.... and here is what I noticed..... When I store C-11 in a VP fuel jug somehow it always leaks out the bottom... seeps through the seam where the two halves are joined.....stinks up the trailer etc...
I can put C-14 in that SAME jug.... leave it in the trailer in the heat for weeks and it doesn't leak or seep out. Figure that one out ! Anyone who wants to see it can come see me at the races.
So I'm guessing certain fuels are harder on the rubber and contribute to these premature failures.
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Old 03-12-2024, 08:51 AM   #6
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I have always used Earl's for my race car plumbing -
As I have until about 10 years ago without issue. My only reason for moving away from Earl’s was my unhappiness with their black anodized fittings turning violet in color. I then tried Fragola which IMO are the worse, not only did the have the same issue with their black fittings, but their swivel fittings sieze up frequently. I have since moved to XRP a few years ago on my Dragster and my Firebird’s fuel system from cell to carb is getting all new XRP hose and fittings right now, after 21 years of leak free, trouble free service from Aeroquip hoses and fittings, as part of the rebuild, upgrading and modernization to my Firebird that started December of 2022.

https://classracer.com/classforum/sh...t=86419&page=3

Also note that I have used Sunoco Race Fuels exclusively, all three blends, Standard/110, Supreme/112 my current fuel for both cars and Maximal/116 over the past 30+ years

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Old 03-12-2024, 04:07 PM   #7
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Been there done that, unfortunately with a running car, thankfully hood was off after a quarter final. As soon as it fired up it literally went a blaze. The brand of hose has already been mentioned here, and no its not Jegs or Summit, it is from here. I have since switched to using Fragola and not had issues.

This was Boise in 2013 when we had a fire from a fuel line which leaked internally from the rubber. I lost a radiator, fans, coil, water pump and most of the electrical wiring. Also pretty much burned through the front end of the car. Yes I had a fire system that was deployed but with no hood it likely did nothing, it took another 11 extinguishers and a lot of friends to help put it out.

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As I have until about 10 years ago without issue. My only reason for moving away from Earl’s was my unhappiness with their black anodized fittings turning violet in color. I then tried Fragola which IMO are the worse, not only did the have the same issue with their black fittings, but their swivel fittings sieze up frequently. I have since moved to XRP a few years ago on my Dragster and my Firebird’s fuel system from cell to carb is getting all new XRP hose and fittings right now, after 21 years of leak free, trouble free service from Aeroquip hoses and fittings, as part of the rebuild, upgrading and modernization to my Firebird that started December of 2022.

https://classracer.com/classforum/sh...t=86419&page=3





Also note that I have used Sunoco Race Fuels exclusively, all three blends, Standard/110, Supreme/112 my current fuel for both cars and Maximal/116 over the past 30+ years

I've had similar problems with Fragola. I use pretty much all Aeroquip or Earls now and all Aeroquip hose....so far, the hose has worked well with C12

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"1320 racer" Why the administrator of this website still allows your obnoxious rantings on hear is beyond me.
You're obviously a legend in your own mind. In everybody else's, your an irritating buffoon.
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your obnoxious rantings on hear
nuff said, you're a moron and a hater going back at least 5 years!

I'm here to stay get used to it My opinions and advice or no less valid than anyone else posting here.

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