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Old 04-17-2024, 08:50 AM   #1
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I’ve seen the offshore small block head on the dyno with numbers down 50 compared to Brodix..did not respond to basic tune…
We are doing a bbc offshore head now for a boat motor., I’ll report numbers when done.
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Old 04-17-2024, 03:56 PM   #2
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I don't know if "quarity" has improved but one fella I know bought some cheapie heads when those first came available. After just a few miles of running the valve seats were badly sunk. Heat treat? What's that?

But then those were not lettered with some reputable companies name. Be nice to have some lawyer take this on without cost to Jay and get a windfall reward to split with him.
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Just read on Facebook the Summit response on the speedmaster valve bodies, they are going to destroy the valve bodies in stock, and contact those who bought them to resolve the copyright infringement
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Old 04-18-2024, 12:40 AM   #4
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Just read on Facebook the Summit response on the speedmastet valve bodies, they are going to destroy the valve bodies in stock, and contact those who bought them to resolve the copyright infringement
Summit is going above and beyond then and doing the right thing, I hope they do not take a bath on losses, but when you are a big part of the supply chain like they are, questions need to be asked and answered before stocking the parts. But I applaud them for taking action. The racers, and the original designer, engineer, supplier, and end user (along with Summit), suffers from the theft of not only the intellectual property, but possibly some innocent drivers in the other lane if they do not work the same, and the worst happens.

Kudos to Summit Racing!

Summit is going above and beyond a
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Old 04-18-2024, 02:52 PM   #5
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It'll take about 2 minutes to remove the insignia from the CAD program. I suspect that they'll do exactly that and continue to manufacture the valve body.

How many countless goods do we see on a day to day basis produced in China from near-slave labor and stolen intellectual property?

Without massive tariff's and a serious crackdown on patent/trademark/copyright infringement--which won't happen--the only solution is for people to stop buying all of this junk.

Please forgive me if I don't hold my breath.
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Old 04-18-2024, 05:08 PM   #6
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I agree with not holding our breath waiting for a solution, but with such a
flagrant theft of property that is not theirs, and only their lack of understanding that the company name wasn't required to make it work, or a really stupid thief, their company name should not be allowed to import. Basically put them on a no fly list for parts( or ship). Can they just change
their name, sure, but put the principals names on it too, and no company
that they are involved in can import. There would be not a lot of problem
to get around any of this, but if they had to repackage, change company
names. re-incorporate, etc, it will slow them down. and if they are small, maybe it tips them over. I'd rather aggravate the crap out of them, then just let them off the hook. Press charges, let Homeland Security handle it, they would stop any further shipments. J.R.
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Old 04-19-2024, 01:12 PM   #7
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Summit has lawyers, their lawyers told them what to do and they did it. They want to stay out of the storm. They are not innocent, they sell tons of copies under their brand they are just smart enough to make sure the original name isn't engraved on it.
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Summit has always been real above board and straight up with me on everything I have bought from them for the last 25 or so years. It's good to have reputable persons like that on our side. I'll go there first with all my future parts purchases.
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Summit is going above and beyond then and doing the right thing, I hope they do not take a bath on losses, but when you are a big part of the supply chain like they are, questions need to be asked and answered before stocking the parts. But I applaud them for taking action. The racers, and the original designer, engineer, supplier, and end user (along with Summit), suffers from the theft of not only the intellectual property, but possibly some innocent drivers in the other lane if they do not work the same, and the worst happens.

Kudos to Summit Racing!

Summit is going above and beyond a
Just went to the Summit/Atech sites to nose around. Appears to have been scrubbed of anything Speedmaster or PCE related. Same Jegs. Kudos to them if true.

I guess the guys who like that stuff will have to go to Amazon and eBay for their crap.
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