Trump found guilty!

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger

You on Medicare Alan? Anyone in your family on it? Because if you have a problem with this single payer system, you should be dead set against Medicare also. Medicare has one price for all. Sick, healthy, fat, skinny ...doesn't matter. You think people on Medicare should now have spit pricing? If before Obamacare someone in your family came down with the cancer bug and at renewal time was dropped, and then when they searched only to find out they were now uninsurable, you would at least of had a taste of what we went thru. Back then, medical expenses were a leading cause of bankruptcies. I just don't understand why a magic wand happens when you turn 65? You don't understand the 100 % subsidies. My personal insurance was 1200 a month. If my income would have been under 40 grand a year, I would have received something like a 70% subsidy, and my monthly payment would have been 400 a month. There is a point where it pays it all, but it's a poverty income. I don't remember the cut off.
And as far as someone else paying for others problems? Medicare has a similar system.
"For most beneficiaries, the government pays a substantial portion ? about 75% ? of the Part B premium, and the beneficiary pays the remaining 25%. If we determine you?re a higher-income beneficiary, you?ll pay a larger percentage of the total cost of Part B based on the income you normally report to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS)
And your opinion on the military I agree on. You forgot about obesity. The #1 problem for the military is struggling to find young people who can even come close to getting thru boot camp. And they just keep getting fatter. Look at a picture of Woodstock sometime and count the ones who are overweight. Back then, overweight ones were the exception, not the norm.

Nope, not on medicare. And I've had cancer for two years, so I know what medical care costs. And I have been paying rapidly increasing premiums ever since they "had to pass it to find out what is in it."



I understand subsidies perfectly. The government takes in an exorbitant amount of money, and pays back a pittance, after it soaks up most of the revenue to feed the bureaucracy. That's how subsidies work. We paid stupid high taxes, the government wastes most of it, and we get back practically nothing. While the government drives up the cost of everything, especially what it subsidizes. That absolutely includes healthcare.


There is absolutely nothing that the government cannot make less effective, less efficient, less desirable, and more expensive. Healthcare is a prime example.


The U.S. government must now spend most of its money on servicing its debt, chiefly, just trying to pay the interest on what it owes. Eventually, sooner than later, the tipping point will be reached, where it cannot even pay the interest. What do you think will happen to your subsidies when the government runs out of money.



You admire Canada? Really? You should look into their MAID initiative. Yeah, that system you wish for in Canada literally counsels people to allow the medical system end their life. "You can't get an appointment to see a doctor about your illness, but, if you're suffering too much, we can get you into a medically assisted suicide facility." That's exactly right, if you become more trouble and expense than they want to be bothered with, they'll literally tell you that you should go talk to a "health care professional" about ending your life.