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Old 08-01-2024, 01:28 PM   #1
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Default Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?

They run everyone off that actually does a good job and cares ! Problem is they don't care !

I hope Alan is still around he is the best!
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Old 08-01-2024, 02:31 PM   #2
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Why do we choose NHRA in the first place? Is it the so called prestige of making a pass at a "national event" that actually never makes it on TV? or is it the "enhancements" that continually chip away at our enjoyment? Maybe its the cost of the tech cards that in no way are commensurate with the payouts.

I would offer the following as the real reasons:

It is the competitive nature of S and SS, the friendships and history of the class along with bragging rights of event wins. Opportunity for sponsorship $$ perhaps?

When it comes down to it what is desperately needed is one of our well heeled "friends" in our class that would hire someone to organize a national organization with points, realistic payouts, well organized and enjoyable events at great locations that make sense. I would even add catered food and nightime entertainment to attract the next generation of fan and racer alike.

And most importantly a support team of video production and promotion that would actually get 10's of thousands of views on streaming services that would naturally attract manufacturer and related sponsorships. (unlike the whopping "hundreds" of views we see now for divisional events).

Coordinating with local parts suppliers and dealerships ahead of the events, like NASCAR used to do by displaying our vehicles as the show-pieces they truly are. This would add butts to the seats also.

The $$ is in eyeballs. Someone with production and advertising background could take a serious approach to this and see it flourish. Kiss Gendora goodbye forever- Non profit my *****. Get real.
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Old 08-01-2024, 03:59 PM   #3
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When it comes down to it what is desperately needed is one of our well heeled "friends" in our class that would hire someone to organize a national organization with points, realistic payouts, well organized and enjoyable events at great locations that make sense. I would even add catered food and nightime entertainment to attract the next generation of fan and racer alike.
"When it comes down to it", NHRA would never allow a direct competitor to stage an event at any of it's sanctioned tracks.
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Old 08-01-2024, 05:31 PM   #4
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Ah the typical hate on the NHRA that this site is known for yet you all keep showing up and paying to play in their sandbox. Too fucing funny!
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Old 08-02-2024, 07:26 PM   #5
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Ah the typical hate on the NHRA that this site is known for yet you all keep showing up and paying to play in their sandbox. Too fucing funny!
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Just like most threads on here....Alan who?

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IHRA tried for years and couldn't compete with NHRA. When it comes down to it the Stock and SS guys were the best excuse makers as to why they wouldn't run another sanctioned event. There were crate motors, too many 1/8 mile races, etc etc you name it but what it boiled down to was everyone just wants to race for the Wally. Prime example were the races Ken put on that struggled to get any traction with huge payouts and catered directly to us. This year was better turnout but it had to be put on the day before the division races.
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Old 08-01-2024, 05:48 PM   #8
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"When it comes down to it", NHRA would never allow a direct competitor to stage an event at any of it's sanctioned tracks.
This is key. It's right up there with the proxy that gave the board total power. I've always thought it's why the IHRA never gained ground.

The NHRA worked hard through the years at locking up the best facilities. The contracts severely limit what sorts of events a track owner could hold.

I don't disagree with the formation of a new, more racer friendly organization, but considering: 1) the length of time it would take for enough significant tracks' contracts to expire 2) actually being able to convince them to move to an untested thing 3) the ability to provide an equal insurance package for the owners 4) the uncertainty whether racers would follow (bears on the getting worse treatment but still doing it) - It would take incredibly deep pockets to keep funding in place to get the job done over what would take years.

And then, finding capable people to staff the organization. We've seen how the suits have just ghosted people that they think crossed them. Would enough good people be willing to permantly burn that bridge and maybe eventually not be able to do what they love?
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This is key. It's right up there with the proxy that gave the board total power. I've always thought it's why the IHRA never gained ground.

The NHRA worked hard through the years at locking up the best facilities. The contracts severely limit what sorts of events a track owner could hold.

I don't disagree with the formation of a new, more racer friendly organization, but considering: 1) the length of time it would take for enough significant tracks' contracts to expire 2) actually being able to convince them to move to an untested thing 3) the ability to provide an equal insurance package for the owners 4) the uncertainty whether racers would follow (bears on the getting worse treatment but still doing it) - It would take incredibly deep pockets to keep funding in place to get the job done over what would take years.

And then, finding capable people to staff the organization. We've seen how the suits have just ghosted people that they think crossed them. Would enough good people be willing to permantly burn that bridge and maybe eventually not be able to do what they love?

That is a well-thought-out set of reasons. Thank you for sharing. Makes sense.
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