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Old 10-10-2024, 10:38 AM   #1
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

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SLR is internet forum malarkey like dynamic compression ratio[/QUOTE]

Way to go Ed...
You may fool some of the racers with your malarkey some of the time, but not all of the time.
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Old 10-10-2024, 10:46 AM   #2
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

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what you lose or gain in 60 foot directly effects the ET!

That said, I invite you to come to Numidia next season on a bracket day and I'll show what the change in 60 foot does to the ET. I'll launch wheels up, breaking the 60 foot with the back tires and the next pass I'll tighten the front shocks up all the way launching with the front wheels just off the track. My car doesn't need to wheelie to dead hook, it will hook in a puddle!

Here you have said how the height and length of a wheelie effects your car.



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it was, it's not now and that has nothing to do with this conversation which is about...

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SLR is internet forum malarkey like dynamic compression ratio

Exactly! So just how does no wheelie effect your car?


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PS Just how far off the track do the front wheels need to be for it to be a wheelie? LOL

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Old 10-10-2024, 11:16 AM   #3
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it was, it's not now and that has nothing to do with this conversation which is about...

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SLR is internet forum malarkey like dynamic compression ratio
Just what I thought you would say, you are comparing apples and oranges, and it does have alot to do with this conversation.
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Old 10-10-2024, 08:22 AM   #4
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

All i know is this past weekend at bracket finals at Darlington my vega was pulling the wheels about 2 to 3 feet sitting them down right at the 60? going 1.26 60? 3.71 330? and 5.77 660?. Had the bye at 3 cars and proceeded to do a 120? wheelie going 1.34 60? 3.71 330? and 5.773 on a 5.77 dial. So I personally dont see any difference in et and wheelie size. Now if you didnt daylight the wheel at launch and rolled through the beams at launch i could see it being faster because you are getting a running start at the timing system. But i think it would be minimal et gain.

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Old 10-10-2024, 09:07 AM   #5
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a monster wheelie will absolutely burn a bunch of et...
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Old 10-10-2024, 09:19 AM   #6
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

In my sb stocker
It?s gotta wheelie or it slows down
I tighten up the shocks. Years ago it slows down like 5 hundreds
Now in aBB high powered 396 I hear tighten it up it goes faster
Watch Jim Boudreau car tight is right
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In my sb stocker
It?s gotta wheelie or it slows down
Ya know Ponko, Even cars like my Novas which wouldn't wheelstand on their best day will slow down if I have the front shocks too tight. Each car and combo wants what it wants and they're all different.
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Old 10-10-2024, 09:46 AM   #8
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

Billy that's a great point all cars are different ,Another example of my personal car is I had my shocks way too tight my first couple of runs with my car last week and my 60's were 1.39 both passes . So there is something to your statement for sure. Every car just has to find its own sweet spot for the best ET.
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Old 10-10-2024, 12:36 PM   #9
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GUMP...knows!
There is a difference between what I would call a huge and a long wheelie.

We have our bracket mode which is something similar to what I witnessed in the video that you posted.

Then, we have KILL and MINESHAFT conditions which can throw a curve ball in to the mix. On our fastest runs, we often do a long wheelie that trips the 60' with the back tires. It does not slow us down. The curve ball is when we go into that monster wheelstand. This is when the car stands straight up and I get both shifts in the air. It slows the car tenths.....
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Old 10-10-2024, 12:52 PM   #10
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

I will add that when we ran Top Stock years ago, we figured out that every bounce would kill about .01 of ET to the 1/8th.
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