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Old 04-27-2025, 12:34 PM   #1
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Personally, I’m more concerned about mystery buttons in the interior and cars that stutter and break up in high gear while they miraculously run dead on the dial.
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Old 04-27-2025, 12:59 PM   #2
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Just make the finish line beam the same height as the starting line beam and problem solved.
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Old 04-27-2025, 01:18 PM   #3
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Just make the finish line beam the same height as the starting line beam and problem solved.
Great point.......could it also be safer as it would eliminate the need/reward for hard braking at finish to take the stripe.......thought provoking.....
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:56 PM   #4
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Just make the finish line beam the same height as the starting line beam and problem solved.
I agree. You should take the stripe with whatever you staged with.
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Personally, I?m more concerned about mystery buttons in the interior and cars that stutter and break up in high gear while they miraculously run dead on the dial.

ive been saying for years, when will electronics be looked at? problem is who actually knows what to look for? now with all these racepacs, sensors,driveshaft speed sensors, what do you protest? also think they should eliminate allowing cell phones recording directly behind racecars on the starting line. just my .002

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xix HOW TO USE THIS RULEBOOK The NHRA Rulebook provides guidelines and minimum standards for the construction and operation of vehicles used in NHRA Championship Drag Racing and at member-track events. It is the responsibility of the participant to be familiar with the contents of this Rulebook and to comply with its requirements. Do not leave it up to track officials to catch all potential rule compliance problems. That responsibility rests first and foremost with YOU ? the participant. Additional safety equipment or safety-enhancing equipment is always permitted and the levels of safety equipment stated in this Rulebook are minimum prescribed levels for a particular type of competition and do not prohibit the individual racer from using additional safety equipment. Participants are encouraged to investigate the utility of additional safety devices for your type of competition. In disputed cases, whether an item of equipment is safety enhancing or performance-enhancing will be determined by NHRA in NHRA?s sole and absolute discretion. All safety equipment must be operational if installed regardless of if the equipment is part of or in addition to the minimum required safety equipment per category. On the other hand, as to performance equipment, it is the general rule that unless optional performance equipment or performance-related modification is specifically permitted by this Rulebook, it is prohibited.

I believe the last sentence of this paragraph copied from the rulebook is in agreement with Mr. Derby City's assertion and opinion, and many of the rest of us that a "finish-line stripe taker" in stock or superstock is not in accordance with the rules.
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Old 04-27-2025, 10:05 PM   #7
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A few years backs, I had an idea about a clutch release device that I wanted to try, I decided it would be best to run it by Jerry Valentine before I built it, he pretty much cut me off half way through my explanation of what I wanted to do and vetoed my plan. His comment was "Just because the rule book doesn't say you can't do doesn't mean that you can".

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ive been saying for years, when will electronics be looked at? problem is who actually knows what to look for? now with all these racepacs, sensors,driveshaft speed sensors, what do you protest? also think they should eliminate allowing cell phones recording directly behind racecars on the starting line. just my .002

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other car was chasing me about .30 at 330' his nose was in my quarter window and would gain about 12-18''and fall back and pull back up12-18'' nose of car didn't drop,front of car stayed at same ride height,this repeatedly happened from 330' to 500-600'. stuck his nose out and backed into me. YES he had about .025 advantage on RT's but it was odd watching their car surge back and forth 12-18'' and front end never drop or raise..
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Well ! ! ! 38 posts and not one ( 1 ) stinkin picture .........
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Old 04-28-2025, 02:38 PM   #10
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I believe the rule book does state this clearly, I was told once that the rule book states only what yo can do and all else is not permitted. The bold text in the general reg identifies the ruling. Under general reg 4:5 GROUND CLEARANCE A-Arm Upright 4:4 Minimum 3 inches from front of car to 12 inches behind centerline of front axle; 2 inches for remainder of car, except oil pan and exhaust headers where permitted. When permitted under Class Requirements, devices used for anti-rotation purposes (i.e., wheelie bars) are exempt from the 2-inch clearance rule. Unless otherwise permitted by Class Requirements, the installation of a ?beam breaker? in front of the body is restricted to extending no farther forward than the body or bumper and must also satisfy the 3-inch ground-clearance requirement.

In the stock section of the rule book:
BODY Alterations or customizing prohibited; extent of customizing is limited to paint only. Convertible-top cars must run with top up. Sedan delivery, Ranchero, El Camino, etc. (if found properly classified in the Classification Guide) are eligible only if all class requirements are met. Raising and/or lowering front or rear of cars prohibited. Cars must retain level attitude at standstill, except those that have a forward rake (a permitted modification). Bottom of rocker panel cannot be higher than centerline of rear axle. Body mount insulators may be replaced with solid mounts of same size. Aluminum or other lightweight material may not be used to replace heavier items on car. In front-wheel-drive vehicles, air dams and spoilers that were available through the manufacturer are permitted front and rear This is pretty clear that it is not legal.
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