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Old 07-04-2008, 10:25 PM   #1
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A few thoughts,
Keith,
After my 30 minute break i decided we were still to pig headed to change. Sorry!!!

Again we point fingers and scream at each other but the problem is the system and it's administration. Some run all out, others dive at 1,000. Horsepower is given and we taunt each other not where the real problem lies. We got hit for a run where we were outrun by a tenth. That car did not get hit. System problem or driver problem? 340 in a 72 duster 289 in a 72 cuda 299 because somebody chose to run all out. I will only comment on our cars but there are many examples to use. We have been beating this horse since it started. take the 2 tenths back off the index and it's a mute point for us. If you can't run the index then go bracket race. 1/2 the guys that are .3 to .4 tenths under are bagging anyway. Those same cars go 1. sec under in a heads up situation.
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Old 07-04-2008, 11:16 PM   #2
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Hey Scott.... There is still hope for you and Chad,,,,It took me 4 times going to the corner to stop doing it...LOL

Hell...I might do it again.... I'm just kidding Jim, Cal, Doug, Andy, ect..
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Old 07-05-2008, 10:44 AM   #3
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Dere NHRA,

I hav bin reeding on a internett forum that peepel ar cumplaning bout other peepel goin too fast, and gittin hit with horspower ratins. Sum of them say to lift and then cumplane bout it being a performunc based class. Sum tawk bout pretectin there combo, why, is it wurth alot of muney. Sum want 2 go fast but ar fraid to do it and then they cry. Sum say too lower the index, but whut hapens if they do and they stil go 2 fast, do U lower it agin until they ar happy. I here bout a triger, is it like a gun triger that needs to bee put to there head or is it the name of a horse who needs power.
I jus dont understand why so much cryin an finger pointin. plese NHRA stop this crazzyness. why dont you jus git rid of them trigers so noone can cumplane anymor and then they can go fast like they shud in the first place. thnk yu.

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Old 07-05-2008, 10:58 AM   #4
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My last post was supposed to be quoting a previous post from another member & was not my original post. Sorry SS Engine Guy,my mistake.
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:12 AM   #5
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mister common sens,
Coongrats!!! Gret uss ove ur Inglash langwige. I stel do knot get it.Kud U git to tha point?
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:13 AM   #6
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A few thoughts,
Keith,
After my 30 minute break i decided we were still to pig headed to change. Sorry!!!

Again we point fingers and scream at each other but the problem is the system and it's administration. Some run all out, others dive at 1,000. Horsepower is given and we taunt each other not where the real problem lies. We got hit for a run where we were outrun by a tenth. That car did not get hit. System problem or driver problem? 340 in a 72 duster 289 in a 72 cuda 299 because somebody chose to run all out. I will only comment on our cars but there are many examples to use. We have been beating this horse since it started. take the 2 tenths back off the index and it's a mute point for us. If you can't run the index then go bracket race. 1/2 the guys that are .3 to .4 tenths under are bagging anyway. Those same cars go 1. sec under in a heads up situation.
The Hemi must start to look real good..after all you are 27hp under the E-body then instead of over...Yeah this system really work...when they decide to combine stick and autos...well...what a mess..
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Old 07-06-2008, 01:53 PM   #7
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I agree with Scott. There is no reason any one "musclecar" platform should have any advantage with AHFS HP over another, i.e., "B"-body Road Runner, Charger, etc., over the "E"-body 'Cuda, Challenger. Furthermore, that would apply the same with musclecars like the Camaro, Nova, Chevelle, etc. If the OEM placed a musclecar engine in the platform, all is equal. The only variance perhaps is "sportscar" platform, i.e., Corvette.

The B-body MOPAR will perform equally as well in Stock with a 426 HEMI as a E-Body Challenger once shipping weights are taken in account for. NHRA has long established there are no considerations for ram-air systems in the vintage musclecars so that takes care of that argument. Same with the Camaro / Nova or Chevelle, Mustang / Fairlane, etc.
If one platform seems to be more effective in Stock, it just proves the right person hasn't been applied to the other platform in my opinion.
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Old 07-06-2008, 04:27 PM   #8
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The B-body MOPAR will perform equally as well in Stock with a 426 HEMI as a E-Body Challenger once shipping weights are taken in account for. NHRA has long established there are no considerations for ram-air systems in the vintage musclecars so that takes care of that argument. Same with the Camaro / Nova or Chevelle, Mustang / Fairlane, etc.
If one platform seems to be more effective in Stock, it just proves the right person hasn't been applied to the other platform in my opinion.
but still we have to see an B-Body hemi to run as Henson did with the Challenger with even 20 hp reduction... remember when mr Lynch very rapidly brought the 402 Nova upp to 405(or was it more) and the Camaro stayed at 390..I questioned that and a Camaro owner said the "hood clearence" was not enough on the camaro(that was the body specific argument from him)..think i said something about that they weren't using the original manifold anyway anymore so the clearence thing was thier own choise..or something...well the Nova came back down to 395 pretty fast after Lynch stopped beating it...dont know how that worked...dont know how that part is outlined in the AHFS...think people and judgement are involved.. The AHFS killed the possibility for People to see HEMI Cuda's and Challenger in stock..now it looks that the 6-pak B-Bodys are going that same way but Shelby's and other are working the system...all because the non-involvement of skilled people..

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Old 07-06-2008, 04:32 PM   #9
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Henson went red, didnt scale, went fast and now he isnt racing....hmmmmmmmm.
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Old 07-06-2008, 08:03 PM   #10
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Fred's new GTX car is very very fast.
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