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Old 09-08-2008, 12:41 PM   #1
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The heads up between grossi and stinnett was pretty interesting, at about 1700-2000ft da grossi's 9.08 was pretty impressive, but as it was said earlier stinnetts mph at almost 149 is pretty good for a 9.20, i wouldn't be surprised to see frank run a sub 9 second run later in the year
148-149 MPH equates to an 8.85 to 8.91 right now, not later in the year! Grossi' has his car working right as his 145 and change MPH equates to a 9.05-9.10.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:07 PM   #2
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If you look at some photos of Stinnets car on auto imagery.....He sometimes runs a big front spoiler looking thing that is not OEM on the front of his car. He may have had it on and tripped the beams with it....
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:26 PM   #3
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You are exactly right Rich. Stinnett does run a spoiler (not sure about the non-OEM issue) and he always gets bogus mph readings.

That motor in Grossi's car is SOOOOO underfactored that I bet Grossi will go out and run 8.80s in Pomona, get hit with 13 horsepower and still be the fastest AA car around. If anything, that car may work better with more weight in it.

So, given all the criticism and speculation, is it safe to say that a big block will work in a fwd conversion?
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:56 PM   #4
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All this comes down to a woefully inadequate tech department. As was mentioned, they don't have a flow bench, dyno etc, nor the manpower to run them or analyze the data.

Hense we have engine combos like this (and the Ford, and LS1) that are allowed to run grossly underrated until and if they are factored.

If the weather stats are close to correct on Drag Race Central, Grossi's 9.073 is an 8.921 corrected. That takes close to 730 hp to go that fast. Talk about soooo underrated.

The tech department has to do a far better job in baselining these factors. This is why I suggested (idealistically) that a head be submitted and tested before a new combo be run.

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Old 09-08-2008, 09:27 PM   #5
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Congratulations to the team of Frank Grossi, Phil Mandella, and Gary Hetler. They gambled, worked hard, and are enjoying some well deserved success.
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:50 PM   #6
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Damn right Jim.......End of Story !
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:11 PM   #7
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FJ,

Don't let the DA figures from Earlville mislead you. It's an all concrete, downhill 1% track that usually hooks hard. It's just one of those tracks that's FAST! Besides, as I mentioned many times on here before, DA figures are bogusly derived and bogusly applied when doing track-to-track comparisons. Our car is more than two tenths faster at Houston in 1700 ft. air than at Brainerd in 1700 ft. air. Earlville in the Fall is just FAST.

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Old 09-09-2008, 12:47 AM   #8
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Frank did what every good racer does pick a good combination and build it case Closed . The technique has been going on since the beginning of Stock and Super Stock racing and is one way to go quick and should never change .

A Huge Way to Go to Frank Grossi, Phil Mandella,Tony Mandella, and Gary Hetler,and Tibor Kadar a (Pontiac racer) for putting together a engine that lives Now is the time for all the racers back east to come on out To Vegas ,one of the best race tracks around in October for Class racing in Super Stock,according to the weather info the road is clear to come West for Sure .

Don't count out Camaron Kallas strong GT/AA car with only a few runs under his belt to pick up , look out Frank LOL

PS Both Camaron and Frank worked like crazy with a huge amount of parts tried to make these combination run with testing,these combinations just did not fly out of the box. Camaron also had a brand new car as well as a brand new combination to him engine.
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