Original hemi dart information

[Liteweight]

- DJ-The first numbers in the VIN are LO23M8B_ _ _ _ _ _.
-Thankyou Casey I'll look into the Joe Armor lead.Yes there was a Dart on "My Classic Car" that was originally campaigned by Speedwin Automotive.The owners/drivers name was Joe Jill who purchased that car new.
-Here's a couple shots of my car as it sits today.

Thankyou Daryl

[donald j raiser]

IT'S THE REAL DEAL ! i'll have a name and number of a hemi historian tomorrow for you.
dj raiser

[Liteweight]

Originally Posted by Liteweight

- DJ-The first numbers in the VIN are LO23M8B_ _ _ _ _ _.
-Thankyou Casey I'll look into the Joe Armor lead.Yes there was a Dart on "My Classic Car" that was originally campaigned by Speedwin Automotive.The owners/drivers name was Joe Jill who purchased that car new.
-Here's a couple shots of my car as it sits today.

Thankyou Daryl

OOPS;I can't seem to attatch any more pictures to my file.guess I used up the total amount allowed.I tryed deleting one of my previous pictures,but I couldn't do that either.Sorry bout that.Anybody have a suggestion as I'm not great on the keyboard.

Daryl

[Bob Rice]

Daryl,
You have a PM.
Bob Rice

[Philip Saran]

Joe Jills "Speedwin Automotive" Hemi Dart has been restored and
is shown on the East coast.

Jo Jills lives here in SOCAL and owns/runs "Superior Automotive"
in Anaheim CA.

Good luck in your search for info on your L023 Hemi Dart.

[Liteweight]

Yes,I just saw the Speedwin car a few weeks ago at the All Hemi Reunion.It's restored back to the original paint scheme.I spoke with Joe Jills a few years back trying to get some leads on my car.Excellant person to talk to.
Daryl

[Wade_Owens]

2 of my friends are doing a family tree on every original hemi dart and cuda. They are without a doubt the most knowledgible on these cars. Ask for Mark Janaky or Dell Jones. most guys on here know them, too.....

If someone hasnt already, I can pm you their #'s...

Wade O

[68hemiss]

Daryl and I spoke about his Dart at length today and I suggested that it may be one of two cars I have heard of or have seen photos of - unfortunately I don't know who owned/raced them - maybe someone can help? One is a black Dart that raced at Dover Dragway in NY that said "Pomona Speed Shop" on the door. I heard that the car was possibly bought from some street racers in NJ and Pomona, NY is close to Mt Kisco, NY - anyone know anything about this car? The other is a Dart that I have seen photos of at York and Pittsburg that was red & silver called the "Cookie Duster". Anyone remember this one? Possibly one of these cars might be the one Daryl has.
Thanks,
Mark Janaky
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

[CrateCamaro]

This car actually sits 5 minutes from my house in a one car garage. I can remember 15 years ago when it sat in his barn covered in chicken **** . Bolt in Mr Gasket roll bar...probably one of the last Hurst Hemi Cudas that never got cut up to keep up with the rules in Pro Stock and Super Stock. Stayed a modified car with a 10in slick untill this guy bought it and tucked it away. Unfortunatly hes been offered mega bucks for it and has turned it down everytime. Its doomed because he will never put it back together and hes not getting any younger. It will probably end up on his brothers shaddy car lot for sale.

[Jason Oldfield]

A point of clarification on my uncle's '68 Hemi Dart:

He didn't ever own it. It was owned by the Erie County Dodge Dealers of Western New York. It really wasn't co-sponsored by Ken-Ton Dodge (which was in Kenmore / Tonawanda, NY, hence the Ken-Ton name, which is a northern suburb of Buffalo, NY, and where me, my dad, and uncle all grew up), as Ken-Ton Dodge was just one of the Erie County Dodge Dealers. I won't say they weren't more prominently involved, as it is possible that is the dealership that my uncle picked up the car from (since that is where he was living at the time), but in theory all of the Dodge dealerships were in it equally.

The car WAS co-sponsored by Jan-Cen Automotive, which is where my uncle worked at the time (formerly owned by Jim Janis, and now owned by his sons, the most famous of which is Mike Janis, who is a multi-time Pro Modified champ). The car was run in both '68 and '69 - '68 was the horrible paint with the cowboy hats. My uncle despised that paint scheme, and was able to convince the Erie County Dodge Dealers to let him repaint the car the maroon and black paint scheme for 1969.





I'm not going to claim these pictures as mine, and I believe the picture of the '69 car is one of Tom Kasch's pictures, so I'll credit him here for that picture, if not for the '68 picture as well.

Lastly, I COULD be wrong, but I don't believe my uncle quit racing the Dart to race the Iron Butterfly. I believe he was racing Ted Spehar's Iron Butterfly BEFORE he race the Dart in '68 and '69, and then when Ted contacted him about coming on board to race this new class called Pro Stock, he stopped racing the Dart, and moved to Detroit to help kick the Motown Missile program off. But, I could be wrong about the succession of events there, as the Iron Butterfly could have been just a temporary thing for my uncle to race while they built the first Missile. I'll ask my uncle next week when I see him at PRI.

One final comment - there shouldn't be ANY questions as to the details behind the Dart my uncle raced, other than what may have happened to it after he stopped racing it. My uncle is still readily accessible, and is more than willing to answer any questions any of you may have.