Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock

bill dedman · 10-13-2008, 08:52 PM

SS Crew Chief,

You said, "should be same rules for stock!!!?? "

Maybe... maybe not. NHRA has some funny concepts about stuff like that.
I have a feeling we'll find out, though, if we keep talking about it, here.

Thanks for the info!!!

art leong · 10-13-2008, 10:05 PM

Bill "PLEASE GET A LIFE" Stop picking out things that don't concern you in the least I know a few guys that race trucks in stock. They have covers nhra has not said a thing about them.
Are you trying to get them in trouble?
Just one point. As far as the turbo cars qualifing number one! Do you realize that a lot of people in stock and superstock can go a whole lot quicker than their qualifying. They don't run as fast as they can, to protect their combo, index etc. So your data is totally flawed.
I see you come from San Francisco. That explains a lot.
"GOTTA LOVE THEM SAN FRANCISCO VALUES"
Try to concentrate on the .90 classes There the wealth has already been redistributed. Maybe you can start a thread about why some guys lose first round all the time. Seems like a conspiricy to me. LOL

bill dedman · 10-13-2008, 10:41 PM

Art,

Maybe YOU are the one who needs to "get a life." Your "life", lately, seems to revolve around trying to control what I write on this forum, and just why it concerns you to the extent that you feel compelled to comment about it, endlessly, is a mystery to me.

Do I tell YOU what to write about?

There's a name for people like that; I think they call them "control freaks."

Well, I don't know whether you're a full-blown "freak," or not, but you're surely working up to it.

If you don't enjoy learning about the vagaries (look it up) of drag racing from the folks who post about the myriad subjects on here, DON'T READ IT!

That wouldn't be too hard, would it????

And, for crying out loud, how can ~!~ get ANYBODY "in trouble" just by asking a simple yes or no question on this forum? Do you think I have THAT MUCH INFLUENCE in Glendora??? I wish...

And no, that was surely not my intention. I was in a discussion about the aerodynamic drag factors of tailgates (up vs. down) when we saw a picture of a pickup racing with a bed cover. I'd never seen one in competition like that and was curious about what the rulebook had to say about it, because it would surely relegate the discussion about the tailgate position to the round file. Jesus....

The last time I checked, YOU were not the moderator of this forum. Are you having delusions of grandeur?

I'll make a deal with you; I won't comment on your posts if you don't comment on mine. If you see one with my name on it, just skip it; Your blood pressure will thank you.

John Kelley · 10-13-2008, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong

I see you come from San Francisco. That explains a lot.
"GOTTA LOVE THEM SAN FRANCISCO VALUES"

THAT IS FUNNY.......if you only knew how bad Bill HATES "Bagdad By The Bay" !!!!!!!! :-)
He actually lived in Hayward in the east bay....not far from Vic Hubbard's Speed Shop and Fremont Drag Strip..........

Ed Fernandez · 10-14-2008, 12:01 AM

He certainly has a real San Francisco sensitivity quotient,sorta like when you disagree with a "yahoo",
you're accused of being &%#*phobic.
On a side note,the May 1964 issue of Drag Racing has an article about the pros reaction to the "new"
5 amber tree.Dyno Don didn't like it.He said the slower car has the advantage of taking a shot at the tree,
because they had nothing to lose.He still liked the flagman,yellow/green light start.Sturm,Mazmanian,Weney,Beswick,Proffit and other top dogs agreed.Nothinglike having your cake and eating it too.
Sorry for high jacking the thread but it's been blownup already.I think this is more interesting than tonneau covers anyway.

Ed F.

Geerhead55 · 10-14-2008, 12:54 AM

Hey Ed,,,with all this talk of Superstock and Drag Illustrated magazines and Drag Racing issues from as far back as 1964,,, I'm wondering if you have or know of someone with a November 64' issue of SSDI that is willing to part with it. My collection of SSDI starts with the Dec.64' issue and I would love the chance to purchase a Nov. issue. Thanks to friends like Bob Rice who keeps me posted of E-Bay and other sightings I'm getting close, but I'm still missing that magazine. Thanks for any info or help you can provide.
Danny Durham

bill dedman · 10-14-2008, 04:31 AM

Danny,
Bret Kepner has a tremendous collection of old drag mags; he'd be someone who MIGHT could help you find that one.

That would be Vol. I #1, wouldn't it?

I had it, along with every other issue, but lost them all all in a basement flood in 1979..
Talk about feeling sick....

Harry 6674 · 10-14-2008, 10:46 AM

From an engineering standpoint the beds on later model pickups are designed to create an air bubble to deflect air over the top. Thats how its supposed to work. I don't see those rope tailgates anymore anyway.

Ed Fernandez · 10-14-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geerhead55

Hey Ed,,,with all this talk of Superstock and Drag Illustrated magazines and Drag Racing issues from as far back as 1964,,, I'm wondering if you have or know of someone with a November 64' issue of SSDI that is willing to part with it. My collection of SSDI starts with the Dec.64' issue and I would love the chance to purchase a Nov. issue. Thanks to friends like Bob Rice who keeps me posted of E-Bay and other sightings I'm getting close, but I'm still missing that magazine. Thanks for any info or help you can provide.
Danny Durham

Sorry I can't help.My earliest SS/DI is June 1965.The rest are hit and miss,mostly 67-69 some 1970' and a few 1980s.

Ed

I'm taking them all to the Dutch.Will give issues to the guys there who were in them.

bill dedman · 10-14-2008, 11:24 PM

"When the truck classes were added to the general Stock Eliminator population, it was not added."
Sp, there's nothing in the NHRA rulebook about the legality of these bed covers at all, one way, or another?

You know, the druids have always stood behind a protective shield that went like this: "The rulebook is written in a "positive" manner. What that means is, if a modification is allowed, it will say so in the rulebook. In othe words, if it's not in there, then, it's not allowed."

I think that's no longer the case. They want to make it up as they go along... That gives them infinite flexibility.

10-13-2008, 10:05 PM	#2
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock Bill "PLEASE GET A LIFE" Stop picking out things that don't concern you in the least I know a few guys that race trucks in stock. They have covers nhra has not said a thing about them. Are you trying to get them in trouble? Just one point. As far as the turbo cars qualifing number one! Do you realize that a lot of people in stock and superstock can go a whole lot quicker than their qualifying. They don't run as fast as they can, to protect their combo, index etc. So your data is totally flawed. I see you come from San Francisco. That explains a lot. "GOTTA LOVE THEM SAN FRANCISCO VALUES" Try to concentrate on the .90 classes There the wealth has already been redistributed. Maybe you can start a thread about why some guys lose first round all the time. Seems like a conspiricy to me. LOL __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS

10-13-2008, 10:41 PM	#3
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock Art, Maybe YOU are the one who needs to "get a life." Your "life", lately, seems to revolve around trying to control what I write on this forum, and just why it concerns you to the extent that you feel compelled to comment about it, endlessly, is a mystery to me. Do I tell YOU what to write about? There's a name for people like that; I think they call them "control freaks." Well, I don't know whether you're a full-blown "freak," or not, but you're surely working up to it. If you don't enjoy learning about the vagaries (look it up) of drag racing from the folks who post about the myriad subjects on here, DON'T READ IT! That wouldn't be too hard, would it???? And, for crying out loud, how can ~!~ get ANYBODY "in trouble" just by asking a simple yes or no question on this forum? Do you think I have THAT MUCH INFLUENCE in Glendora??? I wish... And no, that was surely not my intention. I was in a discussion about the aerodynamic drag factors of tailgates (up vs. down) when we saw a picture of a pickup racing with a bed cover. I'd never seen one in competition like that and was curious about what the rulebook had to say about it, because it would surely relegate the discussion about the tailgate position to the round file. Jesus.... The last time I checked, YOU were not the moderator of this forum. Are you having delusions of grandeur? I'll make a deal with you; I won't comment on your posts if you don't comment on mine. If you see one with my name on it, just skip it; Your blood pressure will thank you. __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 10-13-2008 at 10:43 PM.

10-14-2008, 12:01 AM	#5
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock He certainly has a real San Francisco sensitivity quotient,sorta like when you disagree with a "yahoo", you're accused of being &%#*phobic. On a side note,the May 1964 issue of Drag Racing has an article about the pros reaction to the "new" 5 amber tree.Dyno Don didn't like it.He said the slower car has the advantage of taking a shot at the tree, because they had nothing to lose.He still liked the flagman,yellow/green light start.Sturm,Mazmanian,Weney,Beswick,Proffit and other top dogs agreed.Nothinglike having your cake and eating it too. Sorry for high jacking the thread but it's been blownup already.I think this is more interesting than tonneau covers anyway. Ed F. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

10-14-2008, 12:54 AM	#6
Geerhead55 VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 1,632 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock Hey Ed,,,with all this talk of Superstock and Drag Illustrated magazines and Drag Racing issues from as far back as 1964,,, I'm wondering if you have or know of someone with a November 64' issue of SSDI that is willing to part with it. My collection of SSDI starts with the Dec.64' issue and I would love the chance to purchase a Nov. issue. Thanks to friends like Bob Rice who keeps me posted of E-Bay and other sightings I'm getting close, but I'm still missing that magazine. Thanks for any info or help you can provide. Danny Durham

10-14-2008, 04:31 AM	#7
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock Danny, Bret Kepner has a tremendous collection of old drag mags; he'd be someone who MIGHT could help you find that one. That would be Vol. I #1, wouldn't it? I had it, along with every other issue, but lost them all all in a basement flood in 1979.. Talk about feeling sick.... __________________ Bill

10-13-2008, 08:52 PM	#1
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock SS Crew Chief, You said, "should be same rules for stock!!!?? " Maybe... maybe not. NHRA has some funny concepts about stuff like that. I have a feeling we'll find out, though, if we keep talking about it, here. Thanks for the info!!! __________________ Bill

10-14-2008, 10:46 AM	#8
Harry 6674 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 589 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock From an engineering standpoint the beds on later model pickups are designed to create an air bubble to deflect air over the top. Thats how its supposed to work. I don't see those rope tailgates anymore anyway.

10-14-2008, 11:24 PM	#10
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock "When the truck classes were added to the general Stock Eliminator population, it was not added." Sp, there's nothing in the NHRA rulebook about the legality of these bed covers at all, one way, or another? You know, the druids have always stood behind a protective shield that went like this: "The rulebook is written in a "positive" manner. What that means is, if a modification is allowed, it will say so in the rulebook. In othe words, if it's not in there, then, it's not allowed." I think that's no longer the case. They want to make it up as they go along... That gives them infinite flexibility. __________________ Bill

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