Jeg jr. driving a MOPAR STOCKER

bill dedman · 10-20-2008, 01:25 PM

MPR,

Thanks for all that good information, I appreciate it.

I am curious about two items you reported on.

1. If that car was built ro Stock Eliminator specs, where did the afternarket hood scoop come from, or do ALL the 2008 Challengers have hood scoops like that?

2. What version of a 5.9 (360 Magnum) motor do you think they will be able to install, assuming they run that motor, since it hasn't been manufactured in a while, and was never in a passenger car??? Do you think they'll just stick a crate 5.9 motor in it and use the crate HP rating? I don't know what else they could do.... I guess they could stick in a pickup truck 5.9 of the type that was being installed in trucks the year they quit making it. I don't remember when that was, but I think it was a few years back. I believe it was replaced by the OHC 4.7.

Additionally (and, this is nit-picking, I realize), all the crate motos are overbored .030", so they're not 5.9's any more; they are actually 6.0's.... nomenclature-wise.

Help!!!

MPR · 10-20-2008, 02:16 PM

The hood scoop as well as several other items are avaiable on the Drag Pak Challenger only and are not being installed on the show room car. The Drag Pak Challenger is a special version being produced with items allowing the car to compete in NHRA Stock classes. I know the NHRA is in the approval stages with Mopar but I'm not in the loop as to how far along they are or when the car will be listed in the Classification Guide. As far as the motor(s) are concerned, I don't know much about them. I can't tell you if the 5.7L is a crate motor or production unit. My suggestion for anyone interested in the Drag Pak Challenger is to contact the're Dodge Dealer and look over the Order Forms and see what options are available. The ordering info was sent to Dodge Dealers last friday.

bill dedman · 10-20-2008, 02:41 PM

,MPR,

Thanks again for posting that info.

I'd be surprised if NHRA lets them run that hood scoop in Stock, but, money talks.... you know the rest.

Maybe I'll waltz on over to my local Dodge dealer to see what they have by way of ordering information RE the 360 Magnum motor, since it's on its way to becoming a museum piece. A weird situation, with that particular motor.

Chris DeGidio · 10-20-2008, 04:40 PM

Bill,

The car as shown with Jeg driving it is what will be on the track.Think 68 Hemi car,but stock eliminator legal. It's a special race only package car.

Myron Piatek · 10-20-2008, 05:10 PM

Doesn't anybody even look at their rule book anymore? (I said "anybody", not "everybody".)

On the first page of the NHRA Stock class section is this:

"OEM may apply for inclusion of any special production runs into the Official NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. Special run must include a minimum of 50 units of an already accepted body style, need not be showroom available. Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent."

This may mean that the OEM Challenger may be included in 2009, but specs and ratings need to be sorted out for those also.

SSDiv6 · 10-20-2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek

Doesn't anybody even look at their rule book anymore? (I said "anybody", not "everybody".)

On the first page of the NHRA Stock class section is this:

"OEM may apply for inclusion of any special production runs into the Official NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. Special run must include a minimum of 50 units of an already accepted body style, need not be showroom available. Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent."

This may mean that the OEM Challenger may be included in 2009, but specs and ratings need to be sorted out for those also.

Myron,

I think Bill is just bored and nit-picking the rule book and classification guides.

bill dedman · 10-20-2008, 07:07 PM

Well, I already admittied to nit-picking, if you read my earlier posts.... HOWEVER, I am often told that I cannot put a 340 (for Stock Eliminator) in my '72 Valiant 4-door since it's NOT IN THE CLASSIFICATION GUIDE, although any small block engine could be ordered in any chassis in 1972, according to three reference books I have.:.

These ersatz "Challengers" aren't in there, either...

But, I hope they are soon; I want badly, to see them run!!!

RE: "Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent."

Translation: "Just because we do it for THEM doesn't mean we'll do it for YOU...." LOL!

10-20-2008, 01:25 PM	#1
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Jeg jr. driving a MOPAR STOCKER MPR, Thanks for all that good information, I appreciate it. I am curious about two items you reported on. 1. If that car was built ro Stock Eliminator specs, where did the afternarket hood scoop come from, or do ALL the 2008 Challengers have hood scoops like that? 2. What version of a 5.9 (360 Magnum) motor do you think they will be able to install, assuming they run that motor, since it hasn't been manufactured in a while, and was never in a passenger car??? Do you think they'll just stick a crate 5.9 motor in it and use the crate HP rating? I don't know what else they could do.... I guess they could stick in a pickup truck 5.9 of the type that was being installed in trucks the year they quit making it. I don't remember when that was, but I think it was a few years back. I believe it was replaced by the OHC 4.7. Additionally (and, this is nit-picking, I realize), all the crate motos are overbored .030", so they're not 5.9's any more; they are actually 6.0's.... nomenclature-wise. Help!!! __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 10-20-2008 at 01:29 PM.

10-20-2008, 02:16 PM	#2
MPR Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 48 Likes: 0 Liked 23 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Jeg jr. driving a MOPAR STOCKER The hood scoop as well as several other items are avaiable on the Drag Pak Challenger only and are not being installed on the show room car. The Drag Pak Challenger is a special version being produced with items allowing the car to compete in NHRA Stock classes. I know the NHRA is in the approval stages with Mopar but I'm not in the loop as to how far along they are or when the car will be listed in the Classification Guide. As far as the motor(s) are concerned, I don't know much about them. I can't tell you if the 5.7L is a crate motor or production unit. My suggestion for anyone interested in the Drag Pak Challenger is to contact the're Dodge Dealer and look over the Order Forms and see what options are available. The ordering info was sent to Dodge Dealers last friday.

10-20-2008, 02:41 PM	#3
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Jeg jr. driving a MOPAR STOCKER ,MPR, Thanks again for posting that info. I'd be surprised if NHRA lets them run that hood scoop in Stock, but, money talks.... you know the rest. Maybe I'll waltz on over to my local Dodge dealer to see what they have by way of ordering information RE the 360 Magnum motor, since it's on its way to becoming a museum piece. A weird situation, with that particular motor. __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 10-20-2008 at 04:38 PM.

10-20-2008, 04:40 PM	#4
Chris DeGidio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 364 Likes: 8 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Jeg jr. driving a MOPAR STOCKER Bill, The car as shown with Jeg driving it is what will be on the track.Think 68 Hemi car,but stock eliminator legal. It's a special race only package car. __________________ Nautilus Racing

10-20-2008, 05:10 PM	#5
Myron Piatek VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,542 Likes: 34 Liked 138 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Jeg jr. driving a MOPAR STOCKER Doesn't anybody even look at their rule book anymore? (I said "anybody", not "everybody".) On the first page of the NHRA Stock class section is this: "OEM may apply for inclusion of any special production runs into the Official NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. Special run must include a minimum of 50 units of an already accepted body style, need not be showroom available. Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent." This may mean that the OEM Challenger may be included in 2009, but specs and ratings need to be sorted out for those also. __________________ LOCOMOTION Racing

10-20-2008, 07:07 PM	#7
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Jeg jr. driving a MOPAR STOCKER Well, I already admittied to nit-picking, if you read my earlier posts.... HOWEVER, I am often told that I cannot put a 340 (for Stock Eliminator) in my '72 Valiant 4-door since it's NOT IN THE CLASSIFICATION GUIDE, although any small block engine could be ordered in any chassis in 1972, according to three reference books I have.:. These ersatz "Challengers" aren't in there, either... But, I hope they are soon; I want badly, to see them run!!! RE: "Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent." Translation: "Just because we do it for THEM doesn't mean we'll do it for YOU...." LOL! __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 10-20-2008 at 07:10 PM.

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