Lower Class Stockers

[Larry Hill]

It was Larry and not Chris that won a NHRA National event in the truck. He won Atlanta and was the 1st pick-up truck to win a National event and still the only truck to win a National NHRA event.

Patsy

[Larry Munk]

Billy Nees won The Keystones back in the 80's V/SA Chevy 230. Greg Schmutz I believe won the Delmar Divisional race a few years ago V/SA Chevy 200. I runnered up at the Virginia Divisional race in the 80's V/SA Buick 231. Can't think of a lower class group.

[Dave Turner]

Originally Posted by Larry Munk

Billy Nees won The Keystones back in the 80's V/SA Chevy 230. Greg Schmutz I believe won the Delmar Divisional race a few years ago V/SA Chevy 200. I runnered up at the Virginia Divisional race in the 80's V/SA Buick 231. Can't think of a lower class group.

Guilty by association......with Billy, at least

[Frank Castros]

Didn't Mike Smith win the Keystone Nationals in the eighties with his U/SA '65 Plymouth Belvedere wagon?

[Sean Ward]

My dad has won pleanty with his t/sa he has had since 83 he has even finised in the top 10 quite a bit

[John Kelley]

In 1985 Larry harrell WON Stock at the NHRA National in Chandler,Ariz in an '80 Dodge at
13.316 @ 98.25 MPH....

[The Hawk]

Wow,thank you Chuck Norton for the kind words. The first two names that popped into my mind were Mark and Billy for winning a Nat`l Event with a lower classed car. I myself have come close a few times,Runner Up in Denver in `01 and semis in Denver and Dallas other times. I have won one Division race in Topeka in `96 and have had three other runner ups all in the same "era" of `95-`96. My proudest moment was winning the `96 Division 5 Championship over a Kevin Helms,and only going to 5 races to do it. My points total was 376,and I was holding a first round loss in that total. Ahh,the good `ol days.

[Rory McNeil]

There has been at least a couple of Div.6 Stockers that have won a NHRA national event. The late Cal Queapama won the Seattle race in the late 70`s or early 80`s with a 61 Impala 4 dr HT, running mid 15`s in I believe V/SA (this was when Stock still went all the way to Z/SA). Also Rob Robinson won at least 1 national event, but I`m thinking it was 2, with his 65 Impala wagon in R/SA. Both these cars were 283`s.

[bill dedman]

Without hijacking this thread, I would like to ask a quick trivia question that I don't have the answer to, but maybe one of you will.

Brett mentioned Tom Reider's 1976 Indy Stock Eliminator win with his Pinto station wagon, a 2300cc, 4-banger, 4-speed car.

I seem to remember (don't have any doncumentation anymore to back this up, but I'll bet Brett does!) that Pinto wagon ran something like 15.56 on its way to that Eliminator win. That number sticks in my so-called mind...

I am somewhat of a lower-class "stats" closet freak, myself, and have watched those 2300s throughout the years that run that class, and it amazed me that for many, MANY years, no one seemed to be able to turn mid 15's with one of those cars like Tom Reider had done, way back in 1976. As a matter of fact, Ellis Buth, certainally no stranger to how to make one of these motors perform, is the current record holder at 15.83 seconds.

Given the relaxed cam duration rule (compared with 1976) and other "enhancements" that have helped e.t's along the way in the last 30 years, HOW did Tom Reider get his Pinto wagon to run 15.50s way back then, or is my ancient mind playing another trick on me??? Maybe it was 16.56, and I dreamed all this.... but, I don't theeeenk so...

Remember; this is for entertainment purposes only; no actual Pintos were harmed in the formation of this query....

[TGould]

Bill, I believe you are correct. But, remember X/S was a 23 pound class. So, the W/S pintos are running some 200 + pounds heavier (3-4 tenths) than Reider was. And, of course, there is Bob Shaw who won the Sportsnationals in 1975 with a string of 16 teens in his Z/S corvair.