IHRA Sportsman racers - Letter from Skooter Peaco

[442OLDS]

From what I understand,this is for ONE race that theoretically only the best drivers will be participating in.If there is a very populated class,somebody could feasibly win 5 or 6 rounds of heads up races with a fast car that they don't even own.It could be borrowed for just this ONE race.I think they made a good decision on this.Like I said before,IHRA could have FREE entry and $1000 cash for first round losers at all events and some would still be upset.Since I race both sanctioning bodies,my car is built to NHRA rules.I didn't even realize until reading another thread that IHRA doesn't care what size rods you run or what the weight of your pistons are,or what your cylinder head volume is.That could be a real disadvantage racing somebody in the same class..Its tough to please everyone.I'm not saying this just because I have a slow car.

[Alex Denysenko]

This is out and out bull****!
We are supposed to be class racers. Class racers race heads up when you meet a same class car.
If you are lucky enough to make it to the final race of champions then you should be bringing your "A" game. As a driver and with the performance of your car.

Would IHRA give a nitrous pro mod a spot against a blower pro mod in the finals due to their inequity?

Go fast or stay home!

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko

This is out and out bull****!
We are supposed to be class racers. Class racers race heads up when you meet a same class car.
If you are lucky enough to make it to the final race of champions then you should be bringing your "A" game. As a driver and with the performance of your car.

Would IHRA give a nitrous pro mod a spot against a blower pro mod in the finals due to their inequity?

Go fast or stay home!

Hypothetical situation:
Racer A has an A/SA car that runs .7 under because he doesn't have $$$ coming out of his ***.Racer
B is a so called traveling sportsman pro and has an A/SA car that goes .8 or .9 under.He has alot of contacts to borrow a 1.20 under car.Bye bye low buck guy.
On the other hand Racer A might get lucky and be offered a fast ride.So it's a wash.
I would go along with the heads up runs if the participant would have to use the car they raced all year.
But wait,some guys use different cars sometimes during the season.What a mess.Obviously there is no fair solution to the problem.Every body is right and every body is wrong.

Ed F.

[buzzinhalfdozen]

[QUOTELike I said before,IHRA could have FREE entry and $1000 cash for first round losers at all events and some would still be upset.Since I race both sanctioning bodies,my car is built to NHRA rules.I didn't even realize until reading another thread that IHRA doesn't care what size rods you run or what the weight of your pistons are,or what your cylinder head volume is.That could be a real disadvantage racing somebody in the same class..Its tough to please everyone.I'm not saying this just because I have a slow car.[/QUOTE]

The entry cost doesn't bother me, you pay to play, what bothers me is the no heads up thing of which there would be a slim to none chance of happening, however there are no doubt some racers that would do anything to win. What with all the lifting @ 1000' running to the I-card and running their ladder generating software to try and hook up with a "duck" it's obvious that there are some racers more worried about "playing the game" than racing heads up. sorry if this offends some people but as my dad always said the" truth only hurts if it should". Most of the racers I know value the respect of their peers above most things and would not intentionally do anything to lose that. IMO Joe

[442OLDS]

[/QUOTE]The entry cost doesn't bother me, you pay to play, what bothers me is the no heads up thing of which there would be a slim to none chance of happening, however there are no doubt some racers that would do anything to win. What with all the lifting @ 1000' running to the I-card and running their ladder generating software to try and hook up with a "duck" it's obvious that there are some racers more worried about "playing the game" than racing heads up. sorry if this offends some people IMO Joe[/QUOTE]

Some people actually lift @1000 ft HOPING to get a "Heads Up".It is all part of the strategy of SS/S racing.Just as some are hoping to avoid a heads up,others are hoping that they can get one.If enough people feel strongly enough about this rule,maybe it could be "voted on" before the race.If the majority want heads up,then I think it should be that way.I gave my $4.42,maybe some others can give theirs.I would post a poll on here,but a bunch of people will vote that don't even have any intention of running any IHRA races anyway.

[Michael Lyons]

It would seem that with as many classes as they have in Super Stock, that the slow guys could duck into a production class to avoid the heads up thing. Maybe its more of a problem in stock. However I personally have had to spend alot of money to keep up in the normal classes since IHRA won't allow a ford racer to be able to compete in the production classes due to the silly corporate transmission rule. Don't the GM cars have a Ford 9 inch rear end in them? But irregardless, seems like a let down after all the money and work I did to my car to make it fast enough to protect myself frorm the heads ups that I would have to spot someone who hasn't paid his dues in the sport cause hes only been racing IHRA a couple races here or there for a year or two, the same jerk off that would be so arrogant to think my shut off runs had anything to do with him and come in my pit area and bitch at me that I was trying to get him heads up. No on the contrary my shut off runs are mostly because I can't run one of the soft production classes anymore and cannot qualify high enough to get a bye run and so even though I have twice/three times the money and work into my engine, they get a first round bye in an odd car field, while I qualify 4th on an all out run and don't get any bye runs. So why am I tearin up my stuff in qualifying. I would be better served to shut off and get that #1, #2 qualifier and race him for his bye run. So for all the people who piss and moan about "what are you doin?" theres your answer. remember this cause the next time somebody comes whining at me in my pit area I won't be as pleasant I have been in the past... Oh yeah and as far as the division winners get a first round bye, thats stupid. They should take whatever the field is and qualify em in the same manner as each class uses all year and run em in the normal race format. It would be better if there weren't ANY bye runs if the ladder worked out that way..

[tpoh815]

I agree and disagree with this type of racing format ......But, each of the Accel Survivor Series races had the same bracket race format. One year there were 2 well known B/SA cars and drivers that ran into each other in the semis I believe. These 2 never complained about not running heads up! This is the same idea.
I do see how some "high dollar killer fast respectable cars" would have a problem. Not to be a dick but if you dont like the format dont do it. My slow car will then have a better chance to get in this race. Happy Holidays.

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by tpoh815

I agree and disagree with this type of racing format ......But, each of the Accel Survivor Series races had the same bracket race format. One year there were 2 well known B/SA cars and drivers that ran into each other in the semis I believe. These 2 never complained about not running heads up! This is the same idea.
I do see how some "high dollar killer fast respectable cars" would have a problem. Not to be a dick but if you dont like the format dont do it. My slow car will then have a better chance to get in this race. Happy Holidays.

It's crap like this that makes Pinks All Out more popular with the fans than S/SS. It is a performance based class. It's getting pretty gay.

[tpoh815]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

It's crap like this that makes Pinks All Out more popular with the fans than S/SS. It is a performance based class. It's getting pretty gay.

Harold you must be a top half qualifier! Im glad. . Oh by the way, If you believe everything in Pinks all out well I think thats pretty gay. Happy Kwanza then.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

It's crap like this that makes Pinks All Out more popular with the fans than S/SS. It is a performance based class. It's getting pretty gay.

I have an idea,lets go back to running off the Nat'l record in eliminations.Oh,then only the guys with $$$$
will keep coming back.S/SS will go from gay to extinct.Just look at all the opinions and disagreements on this site.If the people on here were around in 1776 the US would have never evolved.The British would have kicked our asses good.

Ed F.