Older Superstock GT cars with scoops

[SStockDart]

Here is a qualifying effort from Jim Hale's 68 Barracuda (Original Hemi with scoop and lightweights) and a 383 engine.

22 4406 GT/EA Jim Hale, Van Buren AR, '68 Barracuda 10.143 10.95 -0.807

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

Here is a qualifying effort from Jim Hale's 68 Barracuda (Original Hemi with scoop and lightweights) and a 383 engine.

22 4406 GT/EA Jim Hale, Van Buren AR, '68 Barracuda 10.143 10.95 -0.807

Know which 383 that is? I would like to see a '62 383/343 2x4 in a Hemi A-body with all the lite-weight parts and open scoop. Think of a 383 with a full sized tunnel ram in SS!
I still say the open scoop would be legal as the Hemi scoop was an open scoop body part as an OEM piece.

[Mark Yacavone]

Jeff, If infact you had a 68 hemi car and had to tape over the scoop, then why would you want a big ol' scoop sticking up? If you were to remove it, would you then have to replace all the liteweight seats and glass and such?
I'm with you though. If you run the hemi body and shipping weight, then you ought to be able to run it the way it came.
Doesn't matter what we say or think anyway. They're gonna do any GD thing they want with the rules.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Jeff, If infact you had a 68 hemi car and had to tape over the scoop, then why would you want a big ol' scoop sticking up? If you were to remove it, would you then have to replace all the liteweight seats and glass and such?
I'm with you though. If you run the hemi body and shipping weight, then you ought to be able to run it the way it came.
Doesn't matter what we say or think anyway. They're gonna do any GD thing they want with the rules.

I would think if part of an OEM body package it should be all or nothing. But then again, if somebody wanted to build a clone '68 Hemi A-body for SS, NHRA probably woudn't care if you had the lite-weight parts as you would only be placing yourself at a disadvantage.

So out of curiousity what weight / class would a 273/235 fall into using a Hemi A-Body?

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I would think if part of an OEM body package it should be all or nothing. But then again, if somebody wanted to build a clone '68 Hemi A-body for SS, NHRA probably woudn't care if you had the lite-weight parts as you would only be placing yourself at a disadvantage.

So out of curiousity what weight / class would a 273/235 fall into using a Hemi A-Body?

Without looking it up ,I'd say 13 # ....whatever that is. GT/L?

[Shawn Blair]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Jeff, If infact you had a 68 hemi car and had to tape over the scoop, then why would you want a big ol' scoop sticking up? If you were to remove it, would you then have to replace all the liteweight seats and glass and such?
I'm with you though. If you run the hemi body and shipping weight, then you ought to be able to run it the way it came.
Doesn't matter what we say or think anyway. They're gonna do any GD thing they want with the rules.

One good reason for the scoop would be carb clearance, this would be a good thing if running the 1962 343horse 383 combo with a tunnel ram. I'm still waiting to see that one! It would have to be fast with those two carbs.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Shawn Blair

One good reason for the scoop would be carb clearance, this would be a good thing if running the 1962 343horse 383 combo with a tunnel ram. I'm still waiting to see that one! It would have to be fast with those two carbs.

Yes, open or not the key is carb and manifold clearance. A budget racer could take a 380 2x4 carb and use your basic Weind cast aluminum tunnel ram under one of these scoops. A lot less money than a sheet-metal tunnel ram; and possibly more effective. I would think the tall scoop would open up some new technology for the 6-pack 340/440 intake manifolds as well.

Looks like Teuton and Hale have the open scoop issue worked out with NHRA. Jeff, are you considering the 383/343? I guess a 440/375/350 engine would also be a killer. Guess you could even run a Weind/Edelbrock single 4bbl tunnel ram in that car, on any mopar engine.

[X-TECH MAN]

Same deal for the 55-57 Chevy's. Theres room for a tunnel ram on any of the 350/327 engines in these cars and clear the hood as on the 265's they run now. How about a killer 318 or 360 for your AMX? Like I said the combinations are almost unlimited as long as the 8 lb. minimum for GT is met. I guess a 4000 + lb GT/A car with a race Hemi would be unreasonable.....lol.

[Jeff Teuton]

We have a 383 and a 440, and we might try a 440-6 in the future. We expect to test in 2 to 3 weeks

[Chris DeGidio]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Know which 383 that is? I would like to see a '62 383/343 2x4 in a Hemi A-body with all the lite-weight parts and open scoop. Think of a 383 with a full sized tunnel ram in SS!
I still say the open scoop would be legal as the Hemi scoop was an open scoop body part as an OEM piece.

I'm real sure he runs the 1967 383 combo and that the scoop is open.