Srac

james schaechter · 01-04-2009, 10:48 PM

Woodro, NHRA is missing out on the opportunity to have direct contact with their customers by ignoring the stated purpose of the SRAC itself. I haven't had dealings with all SRAC members, but you and Greg Hill are among those that have the experience and intentions to better the sportsman racing experience. It is clear that there is a tremendous desire to support class racing in difficult times by the racers themselves. I guess if NHRA has not the vision to see value in experience, we should all be looking toward organizing more local efforts like Heartland, etc. to support our local tracks. All the VPs in Glendora will have to get some jobs elsewhere if they continue to ignore the racers that would race if they were given any support at all. Thanks Woodro.

greg fulk · 01-04-2009, 11:41 PM

Woodro thank you for all you did. Also sorry to hear but sometime what the mass wants is not what the "higher-ups" want to hear! No 1 in the pits will look down their noses @ you that's for sure!

Greg Hill · 01-05-2009, 10:03 AM

To all of my division 3 racers I wanted to let you know I also have resigned from the SRAC for the same reasons as Woodro. It basically was a waste of time and energy because at the end of the day we had no say in what happened. When one person can decide what the rules should be, how they are enforced and when they are enforced there is no reason for an organization like the SRAC. I do want to say that Bob Lang and Jay Hulinger were good to work with however others In NHRA did not have the best interest of racers at heart. I also enjoyed the time this past year talking to a lot of racers and trying top help them with issues they felt were important.

I truly believe nothing is ever going to change at NHRA until two things happen. First is true racer input and second is transparency in the rules making process. Thanks again to all my friends and racers who were supportive during the past year.

Greg

Bobby Zlatkin · 01-05-2009, 11:32 AM

Man, I hate to hear this. It is a real set back for sportsman's hopes. Just proves that those in the ivory towers don't give a crap about the backbone of the sport/hobby. Making us think we had some imput, they were just giving us lip service.

NHRA is just a big production company now, not a racer's association, with concerns only about TV rights, series sponsors, and BS shows to entertain the spectators.

I see the direction class racing is heading is toward regional ,non-association sanctioned, series where the racers are the show. Not just the fillers for, between the rounds, of the show.

Problems I see with that are; rules enforcement and when cars of the same class run off a dial-in rather than heads-up. That defeats the whole purpose of class racing.

So, where does that leave us?

Dick Butler · 01-05-2009, 11:46 AM

Woodro, Thank you for your effort. Do not give up the effort with the sportsman racing though. I believe there will be a continued place for TOP/STK and Jr./Stk. This is our inside out effort of recreating heads up sportsman racing and hopefully it will be recognized and picked up by a sponsor or NHRA as if "they" had the idea. Who cares if it works to expand its availability to the racers and the spectators.
Thanks too to GP HILL. Help find sponsors for next years racing of TOP/STK and Jr/STK and we can move ahead MORE>
See you guys soon....
Dick Butler

John Lang · 01-05-2009, 02:32 PM

Guys you tried, and we really appreciate your efforts. I know i do, and i'm sure the others do as well..Thanks again, John Lang........

Alan Roehrich · 01-05-2009, 03:07 PM

Mr. Hill, thanks to you as well. I'm sure you made as great an effort as Woodro did. At least you guys were there, you tried, and some heard our voices through your efforts.

SS Engine Guy · 01-05-2009, 04:47 PM

I started to write a fairly long post about this...............but thought better of it.

I'll just say Many Thanks to Woodro and Greg for having the integrity not to be a part of the problem. I know you both had the best intentions when you accepted your elected positions and gave your time unselfishly to help to keep the sport we love alive and well.

stocker4046 · 01-05-2009, 05:00 PM

Maybe this should tell NHRA that racers are willing to work on problems, but are not willing to just waste time.

Thank you for trying.

Woodro Josey · 01-05-2009, 05:23 PM

Thanks Guys, the attaboys mean a lot to me and to Greg also. Yes, he and i worked very hard on some issues only to get a slap on the wrist, so after a few times, it begins to hurt.
But do want to say thanks to each and everyone of you guys, you were the reason we were trying so hard to have a voice.

01-04-2009, 10:48 PM	#1
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,991 Likes: 1,289 Liked 1,432 Times in 299 Posts	Re: Srac Woodro, NHRA is missing out on the opportunity to have direct contact with their customers by ignoring the stated purpose of the SRAC itself. I haven't had dealings with all SRAC members, but you and Greg Hill are among those that have the experience and intentions to better the sportsman racing experience. It is clear that there is a tremendous desire to support class racing in difficult times by the racers themselves. I guess if NHRA has not the vision to see value in experience, we should all be looking toward organizing more local efforts like Heartland, etc. to support our local tracks. All the VPs in Glendora will have to get some jobs elsewhere if they continue to ignore the racers that would race if they were given any support at all. Thanks Woodro. __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK

01-04-2009, 11:41 PM	#2
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Srac Woodro thank you for all you did. Also sorry to hear but sometime what the mass wants is not what the "higher-ups" want to hear! No 1 in the pits will look down their noses @ you that's for sure! __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

01-05-2009, 10:03 AM	#3
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Srac To all of my division 3 racers I wanted to let you know I also have resigned from the SRAC for the same reasons as Woodro. It basically was a waste of time and energy because at the end of the day we had no say in what happened. When one person can decide what the rules should be, how they are enforced and when they are enforced there is no reason for an organization like the SRAC. I do want to say that Bob Lang and Jay Hulinger were good to work with however others In NHRA did not have the best interest of racers at heart. I also enjoyed the time this past year talking to a lot of racers and trying top help them with issues they felt were important. I truly believe nothing is ever going to change at NHRA until two things happen. First is true racer input and second is transparency in the rules making process. Thanks again to all my friends and racers who were supportive during the past year. Greg

01-05-2009, 11:32 AM	#4
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Srac Man, I hate to hear this. It is a real set back for sportsman's hopes. Just proves that those in the ivory towers don't give a crap about the backbone of the sport/hobby. Making us think we had some imput, they were just giving us lip service. NHRA is just a big production company now, not a racer's association, with concerns only about TV rights, series sponsors, and BS shows to entertain the spectators. I see the direction class racing is heading is toward regional ,non-association sanctioned, series where the racers are the show. Not just the fillers for, between the rounds, of the show. Problems I see with that are; rules enforcement and when cars of the same class run off a dial-in rather than heads-up. That defeats the whole purpose of class racing. So, where does that leave us? __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

01-05-2009, 11:46 AM	#5
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Srac Woodro, Thank you for your effort. Do not give up the effort with the sportsman racing though. I believe there will be a continued place for TOP/STK and Jr./Stk. This is our inside out effort of recreating heads up sportsman racing and hopefully it will be recognized and picked up by a sponsor or NHRA as if "they" had the idea. Who cares if it works to expand its availability to the racers and the spectators. Thanks too to GP HILL. Help find sponsors for next years racing of TOP/STK and Jr/STK and we can move ahead MORE> See you guys soon.... Dick Butler

01-05-2009, 02:32 PM	#6
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Srac Guys you tried, and we really appreciate your efforts. I know i do, and i'm sure the others do as well..Thanks again, John Lang........ __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS

01-05-2009, 03:07 PM	#7
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,116 Likes: 1,573 Liked 1,830 Times in 415 Posts	Re: Srac Mr. Hill, thanks to you as well. I'm sure you made as great an effort as Woodro did. At least you guys were there, you tried, and some heard our voices through your efforts. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

01-05-2009, 04:47 PM	#8
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Srac I started to write a fairly long post about this...............but thought better of it. I'll just say Many Thanks to Woodro and Greg for having the integrity not to be a part of the problem. I know you both had the best intentions when you accepted your elected positions and gave your time unselfishly to help to keep the sport we love alive and well.

01-05-2009, 05:00 PM	#9
stocker4046 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Baker, Louisiana Posts: 47 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Srac Maybe this should tell NHRA that racers are willing to work on problems, but are not willing to just waste time. Thank you for trying.

01-05-2009, 05:23 PM	#10
Woodro Josey Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 805 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Srac Thanks Guys, the attaboys mean a lot to me and to Greg also. Yes, he and i worked very hard on some issues only to get a slap on the wrist, so after a few times, it begins to hurt. But do want to say thanks to each and everyone of you guys, you were the reason we were trying so hard to have a voice. __________________ Woodro Josey 2002 STK

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