Anyone here race an inline six?

Tom Goldman · 01-11-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Turner

If I was starting from scratch, with an I6 as my goal power source, it would be an AMC. Chev as a second choice.

The AMC 6 is a good choice for a strong bottom end, but choose carefully,carburation is limited to a 1 bbl on most years,with only a few with 2bbl. .....Same for cam lift .....The '77 is the best choice,and has been run sucessfully by several racers,most notably, the infamous Ed F. .....As far as racing a 6 goes, any of them is a challange, ask Billy Nees, by far ,in my opinion,one of the more sucessful 6 cyl Stock racers.....Tom

Billy Nees · 01-11-2009, 08:51 PM

If you have a Fairmont with a 200 then play with it. It's not that bad a combo at 115 hp and it's a 10 cent build except for trans and converter.

Joe Toller · 01-11-2009, 09:08 PM

Hmmm, the car is REALLY clean and low mileage. I was down to it or Ed suggested a Rambler American, which I also have one of. Guess I have some thinking to do. Thanks so much everyone.

Joe Toller · 01-11-2009, 09:09 PM

Oh yeah, I don't have a rulebook at hand yet, could anyone maybe tell me what class the Fairmont would fall into? It's a coupe.

Mark Yacavone · 01-11-2009, 09:31 PM

I don't see a Fairmont that's any good.
Here's your car : 79 Aspen 2 dr cpe, 225 2bbl @ 140 hp ...V/SA.
Easy to build low gearset 904, using the later OD parts

Stay in the 6 cyl class...V

Case closed.

Billy Nees · 01-12-2009, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

I don't see a Fairmont that's any good.
Here's your car : 79 Aspen 2 dr cpe, 225 2bbl @ 140 hp ...V/SA.
Easy to build low gearset 904, using the later OD parts

Stay in the 6 cyl class...V

Case closed.

I have to agree with Mark about the Aspen but don't close the case yet. Mark, he has a clean body to start with. Where are you going to find a decent Aspen? Maybe in your backyard but not in mine. The 200 motor isn't showing the correct factor in the guide. We were looking for a place to play with a Mustang some time ago and got that factor changed to 115 based on a paper mistake. The man to talk to is Dave Ley. At 115 it is a V car and again he has one.

Billy Nees · 01-12-2009, 08:27 AM

Iraceitall, hang around this board long enough and you'll realize that if you ask 100 S/SS racers a question you'll get 100 different answers. You can pick the best combo, you can pick a combo that you have or you can pick a car for it's emotional attachment. What I'm getting at is to pick a combo that you have the means to finish and have fun with it. As you learn the "ropes" you can make your own decisions.

Dave Turner · 01-12-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I have to agree with Mark about the Aspen but don't close the case yet. Mark, he has a clean body to start with. Where are you going to find a decent Aspen? Maybe in your backyard but not in mine. The 200 motor isn't showing the correct factor in the guide. We were looking for a place to play with a Mustang some time ago and got that factor changed to 115 based on a paper mistake. The man to talk to is Dave Ley. At 115 it is a V car and again he has one.

Billy, do they ever change the on-line documentation once an error is identified?

Dave Turner · 01-11-2009, 09:51 PM

In another post, you indicated that the Fairmont was an '80. The 200 in that year is 85hp, factored to 140. It's a natural "R" car and I think it would be tough to get that combo to be competetive. You could run at 2690 min. in "R" and would need to make around 180 flywheel hp to run the index(14.35). I don't know if the '80 carb is larger than my '72; the head is considered to be a little better. It has larger intake valves and larger chambers but the pistons are also flat top compared to the earlier dish. Can't tell you much about the runners - yet. Cam lift is the same. My Maverick is almost as light and is a natural "V" package. A second and a half is a bunch between "R" and "V".

My uneducated evaluation.

Joe Toller · 01-11-2009, 09:58 PM

WOW, this has been an eye opener! Just when I think the Mopar is a goner, here's a good case for it, though I don't have one at the ready, except access to a 78 wagon. When I think more about the Ford, hmm, not so good. The Rambler is still an open case though...

How long did it take you guys to figure out what to build, and why did you build the combos you did, if I may ask? I'm looking for all the insight I can before picking up a wrench...

01-11-2009, 08:51 PM	#2
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,504 Likes: 3,606 Liked 7,814 Times in 1,748 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? If you have a Fairmont with a 200 then play with it. It's not that bad a combo at 115 hp and it's a 10 cent build except for trans and converter. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

01-11-2009, 09:08 PM	#3
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? Hmmm, the car is REALLY clean and low mileage. I was down to it or Ed suggested a Rambler American, which I also have one of. Guess I have some thinking to do. Thanks so much everyone.

01-11-2009, 09:09 PM	#4
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? Oh yeah, I don't have a rulebook at hand yet, could anyone maybe tell me what class the Fairmont would fall into? It's a coupe.

01-11-2009, 09:31 PM	#5
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,821 Likes: 2,915 Liked 5,133 Times in 1,957 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? I don't see a Fairmont that's any good. Here's your car : 79 Aspen 2 dr cpe, 225 2bbl @ 140 hp ...V/SA. Easy to build low gearset 904, using the later OD parts Stay in the 6 cyl class...V Case closed. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

01-12-2009, 08:27 AM	#7
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,504 Likes: 3,606 Liked 7,814 Times in 1,748 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? Iraceitall, hang around this board long enough and you'll realize that if you ask 100 S/SS racers a question you'll get 100 different answers. You can pick the best combo, you can pick a combo that you have or you can pick a car for it's emotional attachment. What I'm getting at is to pick a combo that you have the means to finish and have fun with it. As you learn the "ropes" you can make your own decisions. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

01-11-2009, 09:51 PM	#9
Dave Turner VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Schomberg, ON, Canada Posts: 1,222 Likes: 1,606 Liked 364 Times in 138 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? In another post, you indicated that the Fairmont was an '80. The 200 in that year is 85hp, factored to 140. It's a natural "R" car and I think it would be tough to get that combo to be competetive. You could run at 2690 min. in "R" and would need to make around 180 flywheel hp to run the index(14.35). I don't know if the '80 carb is larger than my '72; the head is considered to be a little better. It has larger intake valves and larger chambers but the pistons are also flat top compared to the earlier dish. Can't tell you much about the runners - yet. Cam lift is the same. My Maverick is almost as light and is a natural "V" package. A second and a half is a bunch between "R" and "V". My uneducated evaluation. __________________ Dave Turner SS/GT #1153

01-11-2009, 09:58 PM	#10
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? WOW, this has been an eye opener! Just when I think the Mopar is a goner, here's a good case for it, though I don't have one at the ready, except access to a 78 wagon. When I think more about the Ford, hmm, not so good. The Rambler is still an open case though... How long did it take you guys to figure out what to build, and why did you build the combos you did, if I may ask? I'm looking for all the insight I can before picking up a wrench...

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