Ray Allen/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 - Page 2

Tony Janes · 11-04-2009, 12:41 PM

Terry most of these guy spending that kind of money with Barrett- Jackson probably lost more in the stock market than on the cars they bought and sold. Some felt the pain others did not.

bill dedman · 11-04-2009, 01:45 PM

It's not tjust the aucrions, like Barrett/Jackson. The whole car restorartion thing got way out of hand, years ago, and created the "matching numbers" atmosphere that drove prices through the roof for some basically, ordinary cars. Nice cars, yes, fully restored, yes, but why should a "showroom restoration" be worth five to six times what it cost, brand new???

I remember that in about 1968, or so, you could buy all the '57 Chevy convertibles and Bel Air two-door hardtops you wanted for about $400,00 apiece. Now, look at them...
It's absurd...

X-TECH MAN · 12-03-2009, 07:35 AM

Yep !

John Kelley · 12-22-2009, 12:14 AM

A GREAT picture from Ontario Motor Speedway......
http://www.quartermilestones.com/pho...2/RMA7001.html

AND BUSTER ON THE STARTING LINE !

K Stubbs · 11-04-2009, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Polhill

Nice to see that the "little red wagon" brought the most. $550,000 is a chunk of money..

Steve,

Funny you mention the "little red wagon", Bill Goldens son, John, and I were best friends growing up in Searcy, where Bill still resides. I remember seeing that truck at their shop all the time, and it running around here locally. He had the truck in Auto Trader for sale years ago for $150,000.00 and we all thought he was crazy........

Paul Ceasrine · 11-05-2009, 05:05 AM

When I started this post yesterday, I had no idea of the attention it would get. All added threads are correct and right on. Didn't realize how much hatred out there for Barrett-Jackson

. They were doing good things in
the early part of 2000, and the (2) announcers they used on the telecasts
were excellent and well-informed on car history. Now, it's just more of a
carnival act, with the auctioneer portraying a carny.
PC
Anyone interested in a 70 1/2 Chevelle SS454 (SS/EA) from South Amboy, New Jersey. Staring bid $1,150,000.

blkjack · 11-12-2009, 04:35 PM

Didn't the ex-wife come up with some pictures of the car totaled and sent it to the ahole that bought it at b-j? Does anyone know about this car crashing at a track?

Larry Fulton · 11-07-2009, 08:54 PM

"Ray Allen's/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 SS/EA (Killer Car) sold Back in 2006 at Barrett-Jackson, Scottsdale, Arizona it sold for $1,150,000 - including commission @ $1,240,000"

Chip Geirst (spelling?) sold it that year it brought the $1.240...

Since then I've seen him & Joe Amato at events / sales together...
anybody know the rest of that story? Just curious.

Tom P · 11-07-2009, 10:49 PM

Ralph had lots and lots of money so the mil wasn't a huge deal for him and it meant he got the car instead of BJ's imaginary or shill bidder.

The latest price is more what the car should be worth then and now. It's racing history is now just a paper trail and the car doesn't much resemble it. It had stock sized Cragar SS's and small tube street headers. That'd be like taking Jenkins 72 Vega and restoring it as a stock 4 banger and adding 13 x 6 Supertricks and stick on vinyl "Grumpy's Toy" graphics.

Paul Ceasrine · 11-08-2009, 02:24 AM

I'm getting the drift here.
Looks like the only thing real at Barrett-Jackson is Stephen Davis' hair.
NOT. It's only simulated, like the wood grain dashboard panels.
PC

11-04-2009, 12:41 PM	#1
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Ray Allen/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 Terry most of these guy spending that kind of money with Barrett- Jackson probably lost more in the stock market than on the cars they bought and sold. Some felt the pain others did not. __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

11-04-2009, 01:45 PM	#2
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Ray Allen/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 It's not tjust the aucrions, like Barrett/Jackson. The whole car restorartion thing got way out of hand, years ago, and created the "matching numbers" atmosphere that drove prices through the roof for some basically, ordinary cars. Nice cars, yes, fully restored, yes, but why should a "showroom restoration" be worth five to six times what it cost, brand new??? I remember that in about 1968, or so, you could buy all the '57 Chevy convertibles and Bel Air two-door hardtops you wanted for about $400,00 apiece. Now, look at them... It's absurd... __________________ Bill

12-03-2009, 07:35 AM	#3
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Ray Allen/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 Yep !

12-22-2009, 12:14 AM	#4
John Kelley Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tightwad,TEXAS Posts: 911 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Ray Allen/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 A GREAT picture from Ontario Motor Speedway...... http://www.quartermilestones.com/pho...2/RMA7001.html AND BUSTER ON THE STARTING LINE ! Last edited by John Kelley; 12-22-2009 at 02:40 AM.

11-05-2009, 05:05 AM	#6
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Ray Allen/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 When I started this post yesterday, I had no idea of the attention it would get. All added threads are correct and right on. Didn't realize how much hatred out there for Barrett-Jackson. They were doing good things in the early part of 2000, and the (2) announcers they used on the telecasts were excellent and well-informed on car history. Now, it's just more of a carnival act, with the auctioneer portraying a carny. PC Anyone interested in a 70 1/2 Chevelle SS454 (SS/EA) from South Amboy, New Jersey. Staring bid $1,150,000.

11-12-2009, 04:35 PM	#7
blkjack Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Belle Vernon, PA Posts: 288 Likes: 26 Liked 55 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Ray Allen/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 Didn't the ex-wife come up with some pictures of the car totaled and sent it to the ahole that bought it at b-j? Does anyone know about this car crashing at a track?

11-07-2009, 08:54 PM	#8
Larry Fulton Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 271 Likes: 54 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ray Allen/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 "Ray Allen's/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 SS/EA (Killer Car) sold Back in 2006 at Barrett-Jackson, Scottsdale, Arizona it sold for $1,150,000 - including commission @ $1,240,000" Chip Geirst (spelling?) sold it that year it brought the $1.240... Since then I've seen him & Joe Amato at events / sales together... anybody know the rest of that story? Just curious. __________________ Larry Fulton

11-07-2009, 10:49 PM	#9
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 707 Likes: 30 Liked 239 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Ray Allen/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 Ralph had lots and lots of money so the mil wasn't a huge deal for him and it meant he got the car instead of BJ's imaginary or shill bidder. The latest price is more what the car should be worth then and now. It's racing history is now just a paper trail and the car doesn't much resemble it. It had stock sized Cragar SS's and small tube street headers. That'd be like taking Jenkins 72 Vega and restoring it as a stock 4 banger and adding 13 x 6 Supertricks and stick on vinyl "Grumpy's Toy" graphics.

11-08-2009, 02:24 AM	#10
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Ray Allen/Briggs Chevrolet SS454 I'm getting the drift here. Looks like the only thing real at Barrett-Jackson is Stephen Davis' hair. NOT. It's only simulated, like the wood grain dashboard panels. PC

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