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Old 10-22-2010, 09:29 PM   #11
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Default Re: How long do you think 40 to 50 year old cars can continue to be raced?

They will only continue to run as long as there are no new cars in their classes..

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Old 10-22-2010, 10:46 PM   #12
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They will only continue to run as long as there are no new cars in their classes..

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Explain please...
The only thing against the new cars to almost everybody here is the factors are screwed. Why would a '69 vs. a '010 model matter if the factors are worked out? Hell, you can build a new '69 camaro without a single used part. What am I missing?

If anybody at NHRA had given a damn, (which it seems they didn't) all they had to do was look at a cut-away of a new hemi. It's pretty much what you'd expect to see in a 2 valve Indy motor. The exhaust lifter is nearly horizontal because the cam is so high, the intake ports are pro-stockish. There ain't a lot one would change from a design point if it was meant as a clean-sheet race engine. When it was on the drawing-board, M.Benz had controlling interest in Chrysler AND Ilmor. It's not a big shock to anyone who paid any attention. NHRA obviously did not.

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Old 10-22-2010, 10:55 PM   #13
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I've been waiting for somebody to come to this realization that we are racing antiques. When I started racing Stockers in the early 70's I would have thought it to be abosolutely crazy for a guy to run a 40 year old - which would have been a 30's era car - in Stock or Super Stock. In sports car racing cars from the 60's and 70's are raced in what is called "vintage racing" - circle track guys are called "old timers". For those of us that grew up with these 60s - 70s and even 80s cars - I suppose it's hard to see what could possiblly be odd about all of this. But from the outsiders view - or those under the age of 30, it must look a little wierd. What really brings it into perspective is trying to explain the rules and concept of "Stock" or S/S to a 20 or 30-something enthusiast.

For the continued health of both Stock and S/S it's important to get some new cars and new blood involved. And the "Old vs. New" makes for good racing that gets the fans excited and engaged.

I vote to keep the old with the new. I really like the old stuff and am hooked on them - I have a 1964 Stocker - but my day job is all about selling the new stuff.
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:02 PM   #14
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As long as the 50,60 and 70 year old drivers can stand it.

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Old 10-22-2010, 11:13 PM   #15
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There's a few young guys running the old cars
yep. I'm 32, the vette is a 68. the camaro however is only a 92.
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:31 PM   #16
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Default Re: How long do you think 40 to 50 year old cars can continue to be raced?

Of course Andy - my son - drives a 40 year old car for now

I am sure he would rather drive the new one

I wonder if Nitro Joe could tell us actually how many of today's Stock cars are

pre-2000 (10 years old) vs pre-1975 (35 years old)

Seems to me the number of newer cars has been growing and the number of older cars is diminishing

Where do the older stockers go? Another association?

Maybe they are being restored because they are worth more restored than as a stocker.
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:52 PM   #17
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When Chevrolet comes out w/the 550 hp Cadillac-powered, lightened chassis Z28 Camaro (and you might see it sooner than later) many of the GM guys will jump on the bandwagon and start running these late models alongside the new Mustangs and Challengers. Too many Chevy guys out there....the guard will eventually change when they get offered a new, competitive factory hot rod to race with.. ---my thoughts..... WJ
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:39 AM   #18
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GUYS, c'mon !!! Look at what ya all are saying and thinking, sounds like ya want to be a quitter!!! Old cars, post '63 created the term 'muscle cars' and they will be around forever because they SET the bench mark for Stock Elim. performance.
New cars, with the latest technology are creating a new muscle car era and they will fit in just like they did back then. We already have some that have been thrashed to death, like the early EFI's have and now they fit in.

Yea we'll get the F/X classes, ( hoping) JUST SAYING !!!!!
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:40 AM   #19
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With companies like Dynacorn out there what was once old is new again!
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Old 10-23-2010, 01:13 AM   #20
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Default Re: How long do you think 40 to 50 year old cars can continue to be raced?

As long as they can.

I know Andy's Dad is trying to justify spending over $100,000 dollars on a new car.

But C'Mon The big three didn't build anything worth talking about for years

But when Ford and Chrysler did the Technology is 40 years better,1000cfm throttle body's EFI,4-links (build to your specs),blowers,aluminum intakes, Milodon pans ect.

They have built so much power they have all bought patents on the powerglide so they can get these over powered monsters to hook.

The Train has left the Station and it is flying.

I am 42 and Love the old Muscle.
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