Extict A car...

OK, So here I sit with a car that is virtualy useless except for bracket racing. Is this the BIG Bang Theory or what? WTH do we do now? I don't blame the guys with the new race cars. They have fast cars and want to race too. NHRA , Please take a good hard look at what you have created and make a change. I am only one but there is no way in hell we can compete at your level. You tell me what is next.


Barry Polley.

[art leong]

If we had your attitude at Indy in 1980. We would not have won the race or the W.R. Grace Cup
There were 5 cars in B/SA And we were the 4th slowest. There were only 14 qualifying spots. So according to you we should have just gone home. How dare NHRA allow those mid motored, fiberglass bodied Corvettes in our class. They should have been put in a sports car class. RIGHT?
Well with a lot of luck and some great driving we won the class, the eliminator, and the W.R. Grace Cup.
It is amazing that when you think there is nothing left in a combo, somebody that doesn't agree finds something.
Other than class, how many heads up runs do you have? An awful lot of races have been won by the slowest car in the class.

[bigshow2966]

Most of the package cars will be getting HP next week anyway, so it will shake itself out soon.

Just asking, but were you the fastest non-package car there?

[art leong]

Originally Posted by bigshow2966

Most of the package cars will be getting HP next week anyway, so it will shake itself out soon.

Just asking, but were you the fastest non-package car there?

I was not at Indy this year (tranmission is still apart) I look forward to the "Go Fast" race at Belle Rose next year. I think I can handle the package cars, At the very least I will try.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by bigshow2966

Just asking, but were you the fastest non-package car there?

Just asking, what difference does it make?

He's got a pretty decent A/SA car, and he's done a lot to help other people race and learn. He's paid his dues, and goes by his real name, too.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by bigshow2966

Just asking, but were you the fastest non-package car there?

Just asking, what difference does it make?

He's got a pretty decent A/SA car, and he's done a lot to help other people race and learn. He's paid his dues, builds his own engines, and goes by his real name, too. He's just another good racer, trying to run a car he already owns, without going $100K in debt, and doing it the old fashioned way, working hard on it himself, instead of buying it all done.

[bigshow2966]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Just asking, what difference does it make?

He's got a pretty decent A/SA car, and he's done a lot to help other people race and learn. He's paid his dues, builds his own engines, and goes by his real name, too. He's just another good racer, trying to run a car he already owns, without going $100K in debt, and doing it the old fashioned way, working hard on it himself, instead of buying it all done.

Why does it matter? because, if he wasn't the fastest non-package car how would he win?

The package cars are taking care of themselves, no need to be selling off "uncompetitive" cars yet.

And so what if someone else has bought a competitive car out of the box for big money? That has always been the nature of class racing. You buys your ticket and takes your chance. Someone, somewhere will always be faster eventually.

Dennis Schumers
Park Forest, IL

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by bigshow2966

Why does it matter? because, if he wasn't the fastest non-package car how would he win?

The package cars are taking care of themselves, no need to be selling off "uncompetitive" cars yet.

And so what if someone else has bought a competitive car out of the box for big money? That has always been the nature of class racing. You buys your ticket and takes your chance. Someone, somewhere will always be faster eventually.

Dennis Schumers
Park Forest, IL

The thing is, you're wrong. Because there were only a very few of A cars able to go 9.90's in decent air, and only a very few AA cars capable of going 9.60's in decent air. Now there are a couple dozen, at least. The average A car was a ten-teen car, and the average AA car was a 9.80 car in decent air. So a guy with an average car had a shot. so long as he didn't run into one of the few. Now the few are many, and the average guy is ten times more likely to meet one.

Many of us could race for years, and have, without ever seeing one of the really fast 427 cars like the Sorensons or DeArmond, or even one of the other killer cars like Shaul, Holroyd, DeFrank or the others. You're assuming that only the fastest of the traditional combinations lost anything. That assumption has no merit.

If you already had $50K or so invested in an average A or AA car and you can't pony up $80K+ for a new car, you're well behind the 8 ball, with little chance to catch up.

Another thing is that people believe you can just go out and buy a killer engine from a top name builder and you have an instant 1.1-1.2 under car. Nothing could be further from the truth. The average guy, given Joe and Hal's car, or Bobby's car, in pieces, with just the engine built, would barely run 1 under with it if/when they got it together.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Peter North

nice fairy tail story art but keep dreaming caus that dont happen these days

They happen quite a bit but not if you lay down and cry.
If you want to pout because you think you can't be the king of the class. You don't deserve to be.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by art leong

If we had your attitude at Indy in 1980. We would not have won the race or the W.R. Grace Cup
There were 5 cars in B/SA And we were the 4th slowest. There were only 14 qualifying spots. So according to you we should have just gone home. How dare NHRA allow those mid motored, fiberglass bodied Corvettes in our class. They should have been put in a sports car class. RIGHT?
Well with a lot of luck and some great driving we won the class, the eliminator, and the W.R. Grace Cup.
It is amazing that when you think there is nothing left in a combo, somebody that doesn't agree finds something.
Other than class, how many heads up runs do you have? An awful lot of races have been won by the slowest car in the class.

Art, did any of those cars have you covered by a solid 5 tenths? Because a good traditional A car in decent air will run 10.0 or 10.1x most places. The new cars will run easy 9.5-9.6 in A in the same air in bracket mode.