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Old 04-01-2010, 05:53 PM   #1
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Jeff, I am a paid member of both the NHRA and IHRA and posses a competition license in both as well. I am not sure how to take that statement. Are you asking me to leave the forum simply based on the fact that I am not class racer? Or just making me aware that the NHRA rep is not interested in hearing any pro's or con's from a non-class racer?
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Old 04-01-2010, 06:13 PM   #2
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Why not just legalize Dry Sump systems? That would at least have the added benefit of improving performance.


And VIc S......... 11 quarts ???? ...you sandbagger!
If you cut it back to like 8 quarts it might cool down a little bit quciker & Just think of how much weight you'd save LOL
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Old 04-01-2010, 07:09 PM   #3
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Jeff Lee: Sorry but my old eyes glazed over at about posting #35. We are in total agreement.

Racer6x64: The oil temperature issue is: the hotter the oil the thinner it is. The thinner it is the it's ability to protect the engine is lessened, oil pressure is lowered, oil flow is increased (emptying the pan quicker) and more oil migrates into the cylinder. Once all of these changes are dealt with there is no "issue".

Angelo: Remember all of those engine changes Dean and I use to do? I was running 8 qts. 11 is much better and cheaper!
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Old 04-01-2010, 07:20 PM   #4
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Jeff, I am a paid member of both the NHRA and IHRA and posses a competition license in both as well. I am not sure how to take that statement. Are you asking me to leave the forum simply based on the fact that I am not class racer? Or just making me aware that the NHRA rep is not interested in hearing any pro's or con's from a non-class racer?
Just what I made in bold.
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:26 AM   #5
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Just what I made in bold.

Does that mean that the NHRA ACTUALLY DOES CARE about what class racers have to say?

Just asking...

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Old 04-04-2010, 11:50 AM   #6
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It should be manatory on every car with a BLOWER, otherwise optional equipment. Stuff will occasionally blow up including transmissions and rear ends. Are we going to diaper them too? I have oiled a track and sat and waited while cleanup was done for others. It's part of the deal. This idea is another knee jerk reaction to a low percentage problem and I'm against it.
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:54 PM   #7
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Stock is the oldest sportsman class with SS probably a close second and the basic rules have been in place for a very long time. To ask a class to change from those rules in an instant and start cutting and moving steering and crossmembers and frame rails, headers and what ever else some of the cars will have to do to allow for a retention devices in not productive or good for the future of NHRA Drag Racing in this economy.
I'll be the first to say we could use extra safety devises on all classes but at what price would we have to pay for this rule to be put into effect this soon. This should not be a hasty decision and much research needs to be done before any rule is considered so not to leave anyone out of racing. This is not to say if you can put one on you should go for it.

NHRA has been good enough to ask for input from Stock and Super Stock CAR OWNERS only.
They are engaging in the first part of the research nessesary to be able to discuss the issue intelligently. If you want to share your difficulties of the application of these devises on your car I urge you to do so VERY SOON by emailing Bob Lang and copy your Div. SRAC member. Please include your car numbers and type and year of car and engine combination. Pictures will be very helpful.
This is a very serious matter for some to comply with and you should be heard from.

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Old 04-04-2010, 03:08 PM   #8
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It should absolutely happen !!! Every car that goes to a national event, divisional or open should be required to have an oil containment system - end of story !!
Maybe your BLOWN 526 HEMI needs one !! But very few in Stock or Super Stock actually needs one !! Too many posts on this are from people not involved in Stock or Super Stock but come here because the forums for throttle stop classes are DEAD !
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Old 04-04-2010, 04:49 PM   #9
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They were not down for Stockers Blowing up at the classic. Rain washed out saturday racing and washed out the finals on sunday. Had to run them on Monday. There were 3 oil downs total and from what I understand all 3 were caused by .90 Super cars so get you facts straight.

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It should absolutely happen !!! Every car that goes to a national event, divisional or open should be required to have an oil containment system - end of story !!

People want data on how and when a stocker or super stocker has oil the track? How about the Dutch Classic 2 years ago - my buddy was racing there and said they were down for 6 ++ hours because of stockers blowing up - they then cancelled the day.

If you are wheelstanding and worried about ruining the diaper - that means you are hitting your oil pan or frame - you have bigger issues !!

And since when do we need proof of past problems - why in the world do I have to run a -15 suit. Show me the data of how many people suffer burns over their body because they had a -5 on?

The rule should simply be you race div or nationally - everyone has to have it on - you bracket race locally 10.99 and faster you need it as well.

You can buy a diaper for $149 so I dont want to hear it's bull**** and they are killing us with costs - my suit was 1800 !!!

Sorry if it sounds like a rant - but the topic is a joke and should really be a non issue
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Old 04-04-2010, 05:44 PM   #10
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I was there at the Dutch and the ONLY reason the race was delayed was because of rain.
Don't remember any problems with stockers oiling down the track.
BTW do you have a diaper on your heemi?I hope so.526"s and a blower sounds like a recipe for a future China Syndrome.
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