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Originally Posted by Festus

Just curious, what IS good track prep? I was in attendence at Maple Grove for the LODRS event and the prep looked pretty standard to my untrained eye - spray, then drag. It must have worked since I didn't see any spin from anything 8's and slower. TAD qualified a 5.2x and TAFC a 5.4x so it was obviously good for them as well.

So is the trick to use the right compound, then drag?

I remember last fall at the Dutch, I saw a lot of scraping at the starting line and can't say there was much of that if any last weekend. So I guess there's a sweet spot for the right amount of rubber as well.

So again, what's ideal for a Stocker and higher HP cars (excluding nitro) that works for both?

From what I've seen and read, dragging the track is most times more important in terms of frequency of its use vs. spraying the track. Too much spray results in the upper rubber layers coming up to easily resulting in tire spin. Dragging in a sense helps the rubber bond with the surface allowing the tire to grab the surface instead of pulling it up. The other part of maintaining the surface is having an eye for rubber build up in the first 200ft or so of the track surface. It needs to be scraped when this happens. I believe those are the keys but I'm sure there are many more nuances to the process. Somebody please correct me if I my thoughts were incorrect.

[dartman]

So how many time's have they (bob and crew) did it wright.This one got away on them.I'm sure they tried.The heat,big power on a 9" tire and the pro cars,some times thing don't add up and sh!t happens.that's racing.

only my 2cents

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

So jack since you were so quick to take them at their word and thank them, now since you've experienced their efforts, not hooking once and losing first round because of the deplorable track conditions, what you got to say now?

One thing I can say is that I was there and everything I've written is from first hand knowledge obtained from being a participant ..............

[1320racer]

jack, don't be so defensive, it's understandable you're not happy about not getting off the starting line once in 4 attempts nor how you lost and now feel foolish after prematurely thanking lang. The question now is what are you and your competitors going to do about it so it doesn't happen again? Meanwhile, I was there, spoke to numerous participants including your driver who did NOT have any problem getting off the starting line. My knowledge is based on what I saw with my own eyes and what I heard with my own ears!

[Jeff Niceswanger]

Interesting reading here..I'm curious guys, no one has mentioned whether the track was treated with VHT or not. If they were using VP, then I understand all the problems.

[keith ohanesian]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

jack, don't be so defensive, it's understandable you're not happy about not getting off the starting line once in 4 attempts nor how you lost and now feel foolish after prematurely thanking lang. The question now is what are you and your competitors going to do about it so it doesn't happen again? Meanwhile, I was there, spoke to numerous participants including your driver who did NOT have any problem getting off the starting line. My knowledge is based on what I saw with my own eyes and what I heard with my own ears!

They will do nothing. Nothing but to complain on here.

[Eric Merryfield]

Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger

Interesting reading here..I'm curious guys, no one has mentioned whether the track was treated with VHT or not. If they were using VP, then I understand all the problems.

I am pretty sure, it was VP. Friday night I walked up to the tree with the beagles and it was the decent but not great stick stick stick stick, based on what I saw watching other cars in Super Stock in qualifying on Thursday it wasn't great. Two cars up car got sideways right at the first hit. My dakota with its 9 inch tire and short 112 wheelbase isn't as track prep sensitve as say the wider, longer wheelbase, and higher HP drag paks and camaros, so it hooked. Too bad I didn't bring the gremlin, if it spun the tires, then you know its a down right horrendous track. It would be good to know if anything has changed, in the past, I always thought national event track prep was beyond reproach, and you could plan on hooking plain and simple, maybe get stuck because the track was so sticky and slow down, but certainly not spin.

Eric

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

jack, don't be so defensive, it's understandable you're not happy about not getting off the starting line once in 4 attempts nor how you lost and now feel foolish after prematurely thanking lang. The question now is what are you and your competitors going to do about it so it doesn't happen again? Meanwhile, I was there, spoke to numerous participants including your driver who did NOT have any problem getting off the starting line. My knowledge is based on what I saw with my own eyes and what I heard with my own ears!

Please do not put words in my mouth as I certainly do not feel foolish thanking Director Lang ...........If you were really one of us ( Stock- S/S guy ) you'd get it .

[Ed Wright]

You guys may have experienced different, but I have never been on a VP prepped track that was much, and the heat seemed to effect it worse than VHT. We had some tracks around here try it a couple of years ago. Thankfully they changed back. Really big tire & stick cars seem to be OK on it.

[rod butcher]

When I was getting teched they were getting ready to use vp traction compound. Track was good for our 305 stocker but anything with power had trouble. Most of comp. and SS were spinning as well as the new high HP stockers. Track temp was as high as 138 on my gun.
I think the track is prepped for the nitro cars and everyone else has to adapt including PS