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Old 09-01-2013, 11:48 PM   #41
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Cary, I'm still trying to figure out how the tech guy saw how big a hole you had behind your flywheel. Did you go to tech with the transmission and floor pan removed?
X2. Someone had to of said something for them to look.
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Old 09-02-2013, 01:03 PM   #42
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I guess if you have a 10,000hp Funny car you don't have to abide by this rule.

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Old 09-02-2013, 01:04 PM   #43
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I guess if you have a 10,000hp Funny car you don't have to abide by this rule.

That about says it all.......
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:37 PM   #44
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Carey, Nhra may be cracking down on transmission certified products. I believe there maybe a mandate out there right now to look hard at transmissions and certs. At the atco divisional recently a Super street racer failed tech for transmission sheild cert. Think about how hard it is to check the cert on a super street car, most are full body cars, and it would be very hard to check, but they did and car failed tech. There was also a instance of another 4 cylinder car in comp that had a adapter fail. So maybe they have decided to check real hard, hope they were not picking on you. and remember there are many things that sometimes do not make sense but you have to decide if you want to live by their rules or not.
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:24 PM   #45
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You guys think it's bad when you hear this stuff in the stands? How about when it comes out of the track announcer's mouth across the loud speakers? I heard, during a couple of heads up runs at Atco, a double breakout!

But the best had to be hearing over and over that ONLY round winners return to the lanes!
Leo Taugher did the "double breakout" thing on a heads-up yesterday, but at least he caught it as soon as he sid it, and corrected himself.
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:09 PM   #46
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sounds as if NHRA wants Honda so provide pit scooters, ATV's and UTV's and maybe a few generators.
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:29 AM   #47
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Carey, Nhra may be cracking down on transmission certified products. I believe there maybe a mandate out there right now to look hard at transmissions and certs. At the atco divisional recently a Super street racer failed tech for transmission sheild cert. Think about how hard it is to check the cert on a super street car, most are full body cars, and it would be very hard to check, but they did and car failed tech. There was also a instance of another 4 cylinder car in comp that had a adapter fail. So maybe they have decided to check real hard, hope they were not picking on you. and remember there are many things that sometimes do not make sense but you have to decide if you want to live by their rules or not.
That's whats crazy though. I did everything they asked me to do. I went and got my can converted from 6.1 to 6.3 and updated the cert. Same with the clutch and flywheel. This all started on Tues and ended on Friday. I never once filled out and handed them a tech card. I never told them I was ready to be tech'd in, nor did they tell me that they were teching me in. It's all really fishy to me.

I'm all about safety, and had EVERY safety item needed to run the ET/MPH that my car runs. I had no problem doing everything they told me I had to do in that 3 day span (and the tech guy literally told me these were the 3 things I needed to do so I could race). I have no problem following rules either, but as posted above, everyone should be held to the same standard if they are going to enforce such a rule, and clearly they aren't.

Also, rules need to evolve a bit. I'm going to be speaking with someone about this, because I feel this particular rule needs to be revised.

Any suggestions from some of you guys that have been through this? Who would be the best person to talk too, etc.??

Thanks for all the support, it's actually quite overwhelming. All the messages, facebook posts and messages, visits by the pits, it's all much appreciated.
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I think folks are all thinking zebras and not horses in your plight Cary.
With Chevrolet on board sponsoring the event, the huge turnout of the big 3 factory cars, and your performance numbers from last years event; there was NO way a Honda was going to sit on the pole this year. So they clipped your wings before you could fly. I have so much respect for all of you guys who continue coming back after being sucker punched time and time again by the politics that have permeated this particular sanctioning body’s policies.

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Old 09-03-2013, 12:56 PM   #49
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I think folks are all thinking zebras and not horses in your plight Cary.
With Chevrolet on board sponsoring the event, the huge turnout of the big 3 factory cars, and your performance numbers from last years event; there was NO way a Honda was going to sit on the pole this year. So they clipped your wings before you could fly. I have so much respect for all of you guys who continue coming back after being sucker punched time and time again by the politics that have permeated this particular sanctioning body’s policies.

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That's taking the conspiracy theories to the extreme in my opinion. After all the #1 Qualifier in Stock wasn't wearing a BowTie.

BTW Carey your S2000 is way cool!

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That's taking the conspiracy theories to the extreme in my opinion. After all the #1 Qualifier in Stock wasn't wearing a BowTie.

BTW Carey your S2000 is way cool!

With Skillman’s Ford being on of the big 3 manufactures my assertion holds a bit of water. Truth be told Jeff, they led this racer to believe if he followed their protocols he could race. He bent over backwards and did exactly what was required, If not an out and out conspiracy (as you stated being extreme) what then prejudiced the sanctioning body against this racer?
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