What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker.

[FED 387]

3600 pound 67 small block camaro had a 275 pound weight box behind the removed back seat backrest-the optional/legal 5/8 inch plate steel gas tank shield between the trunk floor and the top of the tank, and the 150 pound L60x15 spare tire on a steel rim filled with an assortment of starters/generators---by the way if I remember right shipping weight on my car at the time was 2885 pounds----- Comp 387

[Paul Ceasrine]

FED,
My friends 67' Camaro 327/210HP 2-barrel was supposed to weigh
#2919 lbs. (NHRA specs). I think the 327/275HP should have been a
tad higher. He never found out the actual weight.
I remember it well, because it had a horrible weight break 13.90 wt/hp back-in-the-day. In 1968, he had to run in K/S, against those 1966' 283/220HP 4-barrel Chevy II Nova's,
1967' convertible Mustangs with the little 289/225HP 4-barrel, and a sneaky quick and light 1965 Ford Falcon Futura with a 289 2-barrel
Back when the whole class was running 15.90's. Fun and competitive, without breaking the bank!!!
PC

[Paul Ceasrine]

Just in from the '1966' presses.
The last true NHRA 'Junior Stock' championship race.
The World Finals 1966.
Jay Hamilton in a 1958 Pontiac with a 370/338HP running in F/SA,
defeats Bill Abraham in a 1965 Pontiac GTO 389/360HP in B/S.
Jay came back with the same car in 1967, and won again with a
13.85 in E/SA. (Weight/bracket 11.30-11.88) But it was listed as 'Stock Champion', not Jr. Stock Champion.

[Ed Wright]

I don't remember NHRA ever calling it Jr Stock, just Stock Eliminator. Far as I know just magazines and some racers called it Jr. Stock. I never got a trophy labeled Jr. Stock Eliminator.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I don't remember NHRA ever calling it Jr Stock, just Stock Eliminator. Far as I know just magazines and some racers called it Jr. Stock. I never got a trophy labeled Jr. Stock Eliminator.

I still have a plaque that says "Drag Times Jr. Stock Finalist" that I won in 1965 with my 426 street wedge Plymouth. Its not from NHRA but from the old Drag Times paper that came out every week covering the east coast drag strip results.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I still have a plaque that says "Drag Times Jr. Stock Finalist" that I won in 1965 with my 426 street wedge Plymouth. Its not from NHRA but from the old Drag Times paper that came out every week covering the east coast drag strip results.

That kinda blows the class cut-off idea out fo the water, doesn't it?
We all ran together, and were called Stock Eliminator by NHRA.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I still have a plaque that says "Drag Times Jr. Stock Finalist" that I won in 1965 with my 426 street wedge Plymouth. Its not from NHRA but from the old Drag Times paper that came out every week covering the east coast drag strip results.

This was from Aquasco Speedway that is closed now and I ran the "Cherry Buster" 57 Chev sedan delivery in the final. Tokyo Rose, Pop Kennedy, Gene Collins, and others were there and several other killer cars but it was my day I guess. A LOT red lighted or broke as I should have been beat before I even got to the track....lol. One in a million. Id rather be lucky than good as they say. It was a long time ago but its something I will never forget.

P.S. I just remembered the win money was HUGE and is why all of the killer cars were there. I picked up $100 and I only made $65 a week clear. I guess the Govt. noticed the big "windfall" because I was drafted into the the Army a few weeks later......lol. What a deal.

[Paul Ceasrine]

Ed,
I know we were all called "Stockers" no matter where you were classed, from A/S to X/S.
But someone 'coined the phrase' "Junior Stocker".
At the 1962' NHRA Winternationals the term was first used, to describe a division of stock eliminator.
Clay Allen an old automobile writer of a Detroit paper, stated that some California drag strip (possibly Famoso) used the phrase to describe stockers that. "he stated," the track had 4 staging lanes, and after the first group of 'Top' stockers (A thru D) went through, the announcer called for the next group, E,F,G and H classes, and used the phrase "Okay, next up will be you Junior Stockers.
It was around 1961 or so. At that point, E/Stock had a weight bracket of 14.00+ (wt/hp). Not really the performance-minded vehicles.
The new 'hot ticket' in 1962 was the Chevrolet Impala SS 327/300HP, which fell into the 1962 NHRA class of C/Stock. In 1963, the phrase was more commonly used, and the new E/Stock (11.89-12.49 wt/hp bracket) seemed to be a starting point, and the base for the 1962 327/300HP Chevrolet. It was a big seller for Chevrolet, and the car was commonly found in every showroom across America. Basically, anyone could purchase one, an everyday driver and Junior Stock drag race car, without doing anything major to the car.
It sounds about right. Just a general term for middle stockers, or general everyday daily-driver cars turned into racers, with some mild old hot rodder tricks.
Remember too, in 1962 stock classes only went up to L/Stock, and only up to G/SA in automatic. And with the addition of the 327 engine to Chevrolet, along with the old staple 283 'dual-quads' nothing would be the same.
The 327 engine did 'strike a little fear' into other Junior Stockers, with the Impala SS, with HP options of 250HP and 300HP, and the deadly Vette with the 340HP and 360HP 'Fuelie".
PC

[Ed Wright]

Paul, it seemed to me it depends on who's doing the calling. Some magazine writer? Some anouncer? I don't think there is any "official" parameters to go by. Ask ten people and get close to ten answers.

[Dwight Southerland]

The 1964 NHRA Rule Book has a picture of Mike Schmitt's '64 Galaxie AA/SA listed as "Junior Stock Eliminator" for the previous season. He is listed as one of the "World Champions-1964". Gas Ronda is shown as "Top Stock Eliminator" with his Thunderbolt.

The back page of the 1966 NHRA Rule Book is a section titled "NHRA Eliminator Procedure" that lists "JR. STOCK Eliminator will consist of all class winners from B/S through O/S and B/SA through J/SA." (That's all the classes.)

The 1967 NHRA Rule Book lists only Super Stock Eliminator and Stock Eliminator. That is the first year for multiple Super Stock classes.