Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms

Greg Reimer 7376 · 11-15-2008, 11:16 PM

I installed the Alf Wiebe rear springs and shocks from the rear suspension kit in my '68 Chevelle stocker.It definitely straightened out the launch by eliminating the corkscrew tendancy of these cars. I want to install the lower arms and the upper wishbone assembly so as to properly preload the chassis and center the rear end housing(it's a 12 bolt), but now I hear that the set up is either illegal or soon to be. There's at least 10 Chevelles running this setup that we know about, and Tony Janes and I are a little put out that we can't use it,especially after one is on his car. I haven't seen any posts or official response yet. Anybody out there know about this?These kits have been out 10 years or so,they are excellently engineered and constructed,and I would like to use it.

Ed Fernandez · 11-15-2008, 11:58 PM

Your racer info says you're from Glendora Ca.Can't you just walk over to HQ and inquire?It's only a local call on the land line.Just kidding ,couldn't resist.
I heard that the Weibe setup was going to be outlawed in Stock.Good for a few years then all of a sudden it's illegal.Go figure.

Ed F.

Bud Lefevre · 11-16-2008, 05:34 AM

Why ?

72Malibu · 11-16-2008, 07:59 AM

Is a Moser 12 bolt legal? HRpartsnstuff bolt on antiroll bar? Who needs Alfs?

72Malibu · 11-16-2008, 08:01 AM

Maybe it isnt going to be legal any more because its not available to the masses any longer?

Alan Roehrich · 11-16-2008, 10:59 AM

Last I heard, you can buy Alf's stuff. So it is available. It is bolt on as well.

Greg Reimer 7376 · 11-16-2008, 12:03 PM

Ed- Thanks for the reply.Yes I have gone to headquarters for things in the past-it's a mile from my home.I was told recently that another division's tech person didn't like the setup because he stated that it is an adjustable lower control arm,therefore illegal.This happened in the last six months or so. I'm concerned that this may become national policy affecting all A body stock racers, and I haven't heard any official answer. I would hate to see all of us have to remove them after buying,installing,and sorting them all out. I'm keeping an eye on this.

Greg Reimer 7376 · 11-16-2008, 12:07 PM

72 Malibu-It seems that a factory anti-roll bar was a factory option on a lot of these cars. Your set up looks pretty close to OEM from what is shown in the photos of the green car. (Nice launch!)If my car left like that,they would make me get a pilot's license!

SSDiv6 · 11-16-2008, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72Malibu

Is a Moser 12 bolt legal? HRpartsnstuff bolt on antiroll bar? Who needs Alfs?

Because when compared to other suspension systems, Alf's system is more consistent and adjustable for changing track conditions. When used in heavy S/SS cars, where you are not allowed to run a fiberglass hood, aluminum heads and light weight components as used in other sanctioning associations, Alf's system shines.

Mark Yacavone · 11-16-2008, 04:47 PM

I was told ,years ago, by Wesley, that you couldn't add an upper or third attachment point to a Stocker suspension. That, that would constitute a ladder bar. Slapper bars are considered to have two points.
It seems to me though, that wouldn't be the main point of contention with the Weibe system.

Tell me, Where is the front lower pivot point on that style trailing arm?

11-15-2008, 11:16 PM	#1
Greg Reimer 7376 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora,Calif. Posts: 1,130 Likes: 172 Liked 698 Times in 216 Posts	Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms I installed the Alf Wiebe rear springs and shocks from the rear suspension kit in my '68 Chevelle stocker.It definitely straightened out the launch by eliminating the corkscrew tendancy of these cars. I want to install the lower arms and the upper wishbone assembly so as to properly preload the chassis and center the rear end housing(it's a 12 bolt), but now I hear that the set up is either illegal or soon to be. There's at least 10 Chevelles running this setup that we know about, and Tony Janes and I are a little put out that we can't use it,especially after one is on his car. I haven't seen any posts or official response yet. Anybody out there know about this?These kits have been out 10 years or so,they are excellently engineered and constructed,and I would like to use it.

11-15-2008, 11:58 PM	#2
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms Your racer info says you're from Glendora Ca.Can't you just walk over to HQ and inquire?It's only a local call on the land line.Just kidding ,couldn't resist. I heard that the Weibe setup was going to be outlawed in Stock.Good for a few years then all of a sudden it's illegal.Go figure. Ed F. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

11-16-2008, 05:34 AM	#3
Bud Lefevre Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 250 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms Why ? __________________ Bud Lefevre 3075 STK IHRA World Record Holder

11-16-2008, 07:59 AM	#4
72Malibu Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Republic,Mo Posts: 93 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms Is a Moser 12 bolt legal? HRpartsnstuff bolt on antiroll bar? Who needs Alfs? __________________ * 72 Malibu * 1.329-3.99-6.28@106.71-9.98@131 best 60ft to date-1.2997

11-16-2008, 08:01 AM	#5
72Malibu Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Republic,Mo Posts: 93 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms Maybe it isnt going to be legal any more because its not available to the masses any longer? __________________ * 72 Malibu * 1.329-3.99-6.28@106.71-9.98@131 best 60ft to date-1.2997

11-16-2008, 10:59 AM	#6
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,066 Likes: 1,490 Liked 1,630 Times in 378 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms Last I heard, you can buy Alf's stuff. So it is available. It is bolt on as well. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

11-16-2008, 12:03 PM	#7
Greg Reimer 7376 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora,Calif. Posts: 1,130 Likes: 172 Liked 698 Times in 216 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms Ed- Thanks for the reply.Yes I have gone to headquarters for things in the past-it's a mile from my home.I was told recently that another division's tech person didn't like the setup because he stated that it is an adjustable lower control arm,therefore illegal.This happened in the last six months or so. I'm concerned that this may become national policy affecting all A body stock racers, and I haven't heard any official answer. I would hate to see all of us have to remove them after buying,installing,and sorting them all out. I'm keeping an eye on this.

11-16-2008, 12:07 PM	#8
Greg Reimer 7376 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora,Calif. Posts: 1,130 Likes: 172 Liked 698 Times in 216 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms 72 Malibu-It seems that a factory anti-roll bar was a factory option on a lot of these cars. Your set up looks pretty close to OEM from what is shown in the photos of the green car. (Nice launch!)If my car left like that,they would make me get a pilot's license!

11-16-2008, 04:47 PM	#10
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,742 Likes: 2,846 Liked 5,003 Times in 1,903 Posts	Re: Weibe Jeebies I was told ,years ago, by Wesley, that you couldn't add an upper or third attachment point to a Stocker suspension. That, that would constitute a ladder bar. Slapper bars are considered to have two points. It seems to me though, that wouldn't be the main point of contention with the Weibe system. Tell me, Where is the front lower pivot point on that style trailing arm? __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

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