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Old 02-22-2012, 11:16 AM   #1
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Default Anyone test Renegade fuel ?

Has anyone done any back to back testing with Renegade fuel and any other fuels on the dyno ? I hear the Renegade 110 is supposedly better than C11............I'm just curious.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:45 PM   #2
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We will probably test two of Renegade's fuels tomorrow, against Sunoco Supreme, which runs great in both cars. I'll be sending the data to my friend, Toby Baptiste, at Renegade.

We quit running C-11 years ago, it was nasty, and C-12 ran better. The problem with C-12 is it is ridiculously expensive, and we've had fresh C-12, from the VP drum, at the VP trailer fail fuel check, when fuel check was 30 feet away from the trailer. I ran VP for decades, but failing fuel check 3-5 times a year at $12 or more a gallon was just unacceptable.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:13 PM   #3
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I spoke to Mike Crawley the local florida rep for renegade. He quoted me a very good price for a drum of the renegade fuel. I would be interested to see the results of the tests on the dyno . I will most likely switch to the renegade fuel in the near future.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:02 PM   #4
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We will probably test two of Renegade's fuels tomorrow, against Sunoco Supreme, which runs great in both cars. I'll be sending the data to my friend, Toby Baptiste, at Renegade.

We quit running C-11 years ago, it was nasty, and C-12 ran better. The problem with C-12 is it is ridiculously expensive, and we've had fresh C-12, from the VP drum, at the VP trailer fail fuel check, when fuel check was 30 feet away from the trailer. I ran VP for decades, but failing fuel check 3-5 times a year at $12 or more a gallon was just unacceptable.
You're certainly not alone with your fuel check problems , i've heard that same story from a number of racers . Renegade Racing Fuel is going to solve a lot of issues for a lot of racers .
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We will probably test two of Renegade's fuels tomorrow, against Sunoco Supreme, which runs great in both cars. I'll be sending the data to my friend, Toby Baptiste, at Renegade.

We quit running C-11 years ago, it was nasty, and C-12 ran better. The problem with C-12 is it is ridiculously expensive, and we've had fresh C-12, from the VP drum, at the VP trailer fail fuel check, when fuel check was 30 feet away from the trailer. I ran VP for decades, but failing fuel check 3-5 times a year at $12 or more a gallon was just unacceptable.
Alan - What you need is to buy your fuel elsewhere as C-11 is and has always been more expensive than C-12 .As far as fuel check goes the best way to pass is to only buy it in sealed 5 gallon pails .
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:16 PM   #6
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Renegade is not a refiner. I bought two drums last year one checked like Sunoco 110 and one checked like competition fuel 114. I think they buy fuel from different refineries snd re- sell it. Be careful because you won't always know what you're getting.
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Default Re: Anyone test Renegade fuel ?

I sent Toby Baptiste an email with a link to this thread. I also told him to email Ken before he posted.

Toby is a good guy, I've known him since he was around 7 years old, he's been involved in drag racing all of his life.
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Renegade is not a refiner. I bought two drums last year one checked like Sunoco 110 and one checked like competition fuel 114. I think they buy fuel from different refineries snd re- sell it. Be careful because you won't always know what you're getting.
I will have to agree with Greg here. Very few companies have the resources to be a refinery so that they can control their on fuels. Most purchase on a contract that could change from contract to contract. They can control their additives and request that what they get meet certain requirements---buuut it may get changed in a pinch. I have several friends that sale fuel but to me that means very little in that they sale what they get. Fuel is like oil, you sale what is sent to you and take for granted that it is what you paid for. Very few, if any, can check the fuel to see if and what it is. That takes away nothing from the seller but it is what it is. But I do hope this Renegade is as good as what people say. We need that competition in this fuel dollar society. Racers seem to bear the brunt of fuel costs.
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I will have to agree with Greg here. Very few companies have the resources to be a refinery so that they can control their on fuels. Most purchase on a contract that could change from contract to contract. They can control their additives and request that what they get meet certain requirements---buuut it may get changed in a pinch. I have several friends that sale fuel but to me that means very little in that they sale what they get. Fuel is like oil, you sale what is sent to you and take for granted that it is what you paid for. Very few, if any, can check the fuel to see if and what it is. That takes away nothing from the seller but it is what it is. But I do hope this Renegade is as good as what people say. We need that competition in this fuel dollar society. Racers seem to bear the brunt of fuel costs.
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Renegade is as good as people say . The single most important aspect of race gas is quality control . And as Alan said in an earlier post , some companies seem to take quality control from batch to batch and drum to drum pretty lightly . Close enough shouldn't be acceptable or accepted .
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We will probably test two of Renegade's fuels tomorrow, against Sunoco Supreme, which runs great in both cars. I'll be sending the data to my friend, Toby Baptiste, at Renegade.

We quit running C-11 years ago, it was nasty, and C-12 ran better. The problem with C-12 is it is ridiculously expensive, and we've had fresh C-12, from the VP drum, at the VP trailer fail fuel check, when fuel check was 30 feet away from the trailer. I ran VP for decades, but failing fuel check 3-5 times a year at $12 or more a gallon was just unacceptable.
If you buy it at the track from a truck that brought into the race to sell it, and it doesn't pass, they should be required to give you a refund plus supply you with fuel that will pass. plus be compensated for your trouble.
Why would or should a sealed 5 gal drum be any different than buying it out of a 30 or 55 gallon drum straight off the truck?
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