How about those ford cj's at vegas

[Bushwacker]

It tickles the **** out of me to see people crying about the CJ's ....When I complained & asked for a fair chance regarding redlights....I believe in worst redlight not 1st redlight... give slower cars an even break.
I was told tough **** build or buy a faster car... Guess what...buy a CJ if you dont like the current rules...
Its a bitch when the rules dont favor you!!! **... LOL....Gotta love all the crybabies who dont mind
screwing a slower class car, pay the price now!!!!!!!

[S.E. Buchanan]

I say the only fair way for the new cars (includes Mustangs,Challengers & Camaros)
is to put them in their own class -A/FS (A Factory Stock) at 7:50 lb. break and let
the horsepower battle begin. In very short order the E.T.'s will dictate who needs
horsepower and who doesn'r because it will be Factory Wars again.

[Casey Miles]

Originally Posted by Bushwacker

It tickles the **** out of me to see people crying about the CJ's ....When I complained & asked for a fair chance regarding redlights....I believe in worst redlight not 1st redlight... give slower cars an even break.
I was told tough **** build or buy a faster car... Guess what...buy a CJ if you dont like the current rules...
Its a bitch when the rules dont favor you!!! **... LOL....Gotta love all the crybabies who dont mind
screwing a slower class car, pay the price now!!!!!!!

I'm with you on the tree updating, NHRA hasn't paid anything for low qualifier in Stock for a long time so does it really matter how fast the CJ's can go? I can purchase an awful lot of shoe polish to even up the cars, it's just a little tougher knowing when to tap the brakes and send them when they are going 35 MPH faster then you.
Casey Miles

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by GUMP

Not everyone wants to race an antique.

That was not the issue. The issue was cost to buy or build.

[SuperStockDodge]

Originally Posted by GUMP

Not everyone wants to race an antique.

If it wasn't for the "Original Cool Older (ANTIQUE) Cars" you wouldn't have the new ones... I accept the new cars with red carpet, but let's not push out the original iron that was the reason for Stock/Super Stock classes to be created. Those are the cars that have true character!

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Sorry David, I don't think that argument has any real merit. If you take the time to look, for example, you can find an A, B, F, or X body Chevy, say from 66-70, for $10K. For the rest, if you have to pay for everything if you shop, you should be able to get it done for under $50K more. For a total of $60 to $65K, again, if you just carry it to a shop and say "make this a Stock Eliminator car", then go buy an engine and transmission.

A new Cobra Jet is, or was $75K. And that does not include a real racing transmission, or the pieces that go with it.

Of course, I suppose the new cars might drive down the price of an older used AA, A, or B car if the owner got fed up with the whole thing. And I really don't think that is good for the class, either.

Alan -- I'm not so sure I agree with you -- first of all you can't get very much '69 Camaro for ten grand and by the time you buy everything else you're in it big .Secondly, I'd be willing to bet that its possible to build a" CJ clone" for the same or less money than it costs to build a late model LS1 car .These cars are really a bargain if you start to figure all the other costs involved .As for driving the price of the older cars down - why ? Other than a few class races how have they been hurt ? They are still good cars in the eliminator - ( I haven't seen many for sale have you ?) - and as we're starting to see that the CJ's will make mistakes and get themselves some new horsepower compliments of the NHRA on Monday's .

There will always be the old and the new - and not everyone will be happy ................I've seen all of this before when I raced "Jr.Stockers" and again when I raced "Pure Stockers" and again with regular "Stockers" and still again when the "Fuel Injected Stockers" came out -- things have a way of sorting out in our sport -- they always have in the past ...............

PS-- As far as the CJ's being good for our sport -- when's the last time any other cars have had this much ink or attention -- ever ! ! ! I'm certainly not sticking up for them or taking sides -- like they used to say on "Dragnet" --- "Just the facts" ..............