CJ engine options and HP ratings.

[Greg Hill]

Charlie you're awfully young to be getting alzheimer's. You must have forgotten why the fuel injected classes were created. There was one simple reason. NHRA refused to factor those motors fairly and everybody bitched about it. My whole point about the new cars is that the factories are getting away with doing crate motors and putting whatever factor they want on them. Why is this? Do you think it has anything to do with money? Do you honestly think this is good for stock and super stock? Wait till one of those Mustangs shows up in K or L with that bogus 4.6l motor rated at 235hp. and you'll be the one crying, just like I'll be crying if one of them with the bogus 352 shows up in E and I have to race him 300lbs. heavier.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Chad how did FI classes fix anything? The LT1 was at 325 hp when FI classes were created and 336 when it was dropped. 11hp of the total 71hp given came from when FI cars had there own classes. Again how did FI classes fix anything? Don't give me that crap. What about the newer GTO being rated at 340 when the same motor is rated 373 in a camaro or firebrid. Get over it. Almost every combo is soft when it comes out. It's simple work on you ***** and spend more money. And if you can't hang with the big boys in A,B&C just do what I do run a lower class car and be fast. Now quit crying.

Trying to make a 2008 mustang a 2010 is like making a 1967 camaro a 1969 you really can't do it very easy.

i haven't cried at all, maybe you can't see through your own tears

[Charley Downing]

How are the new mustangs any different then the 1968 race only cuda's and darts? They have made 50 plus race only cobra jets with a 5.4 motor that ford makes. You can buy these cars with these motors from the factory. These are show room cars that anyone can buy. What is the problem?

All FI classes did was slow down FI cars from getting HP. That why NHRA put FI cars back in with carbs because it did not work. Now that FI cars are back in with carb cars we are starting to see hp going up on FI cars. There were to many classes with FI so cars had classes to hide in. Example the L-98 camaro and firebird fit in D/FIA. At that time there were not very many cars in that class therefore that combo never get hp because they never had to show there hand. Now that they are in with carb cars they haft to run fast to win class therefore get hp like in the last review from NHRA.

Back to the main point how are CJ's hurting or sport? In time these cars will level out with older cars and there will be no gain in having one. I recall a few years back LS1 cars ruled A,B and C now not so much. Time level everything no combo stays on top for two long.

Chad why would I have tears? I'am not crying

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

How are the new mustangs any different then the 1968 race only cuda's and darts? They have made 50 plus race only cobra jets with a 5.4 motor that ford makes. You can buy these cars with these motors from the factory. These are show room cars that anyone can buy. What is the problem?

All FI classes did was slow down FI cars from getting HP. That why NHRA put FI cars back in with carbs because it did not work. Now that FI cars are back in with carb cars we are starting to see hp going up on FI cars. There were to many classes with FI so cars had classes to hide in. Example the L-98 camaro and firebird fit in D/FIA. At that time there were not very many cars in that class therefore that combo never get hp because they never had to show there hand. Now that they are in with carb cars they haft to run fast to win class therefore get hp like in the last review from NHRA.

Back to the main point how are CJ's hurting or sport? In time these cars will level out with older cars and there will be no gain in having one. I recall a few years back LS1 cars ruled A,B and C now not so much. Time level everything no combo stays on top for two long.

Chad why would I have tears? I'am not crying

the race only Cudas and darts were SS only, end of discussion. and quit bitching about the LT/LS cars. They were showroom available with that HP rating, the closest relative to the CJ is currently rated at 540hp, 101hp more than their current NHRA rating. its apples and oranges, but i guess its all fruit to you huh?