9.339 @ 143.03 !!!!

[Bret Kepner]

Originally Posted by Tom P

Was that 143 on the brakes?

I guess everybody already forgot Skillman's 9.40 yesterday was at 146.89 mph.

[MikeFicacci]

The steel head 396's are flying. Very cool stuff.

[Jody Lang]

Originally Posted by Bret Kepner

I guess everybody already forgot Skillman's 9.40 yesterday was at 146.89 mph.

Bret, I didn't see that run.

His run today was faster than a majority of the Super Stock cars at the same race. Seems crazy for a Stocker to be this fast.

[Steve Williams]

Originally Posted by johnny shot

Totally invalid argument for getting rid of them. What if a lower class car on a single crashed all by himself at 85 miles an hour. Same lower safety equipment. How would ridding the class of fast cars help them?

You are misinformed. 145 MPH into your door and you will die. 85 MPH against the wall or rollover stands a much greater chance to walk away. The evil of breakout racing is that this scenario plays itself out several times a year at drag strips across the United States. I have some qualification to speak on such matters, as I made a living reconstructing such accidents. Johnny Shot, whoever you may be, if you want to call me out as being unqualified or think that I am talking out of my rear end then atleast use your real name. The greater the difference in speed of the two vehicles, the greater the chance for an accident. This is fact. A good deal of lower classed cars only use a rollbar. Some of the lower classed cars use nothing. This type of accident has happen at LODRS events in the past and given the right circumstances, it will only be a matter of time before it happens at a national event. For the record, I am not a hater of the Mustangs or Dragpak Mopars. Faster closure rates aren't always a good thing. Especially a 60 MPH closure rate.

[Superfan1]

Let's not forget that Don Fezell, in his '08 CJ, set the AA/S record at 9.37 last year, and has run 147+ MPH on at least 2 occasions. I personally saw him run 147+ in Q1 at the Englishtown National event last June in conditions that were nowhere near as good as Gainesville this weekend. I don't want to diminish what Drew Skillman did; but Don Fezell was doing it a year ago.

[Woodro Josey]

I am with you Andrew, Bertozzi's run was very impressive and on the brakes, i bet Edmond thinks so too!

[Dean Roberts]

Steve, You make a good point, but just because a car is not required to have safety gear doesn't mean the owner/driver shouldn't install it and use it properly. Ultimately, if you want to be safe you have to protect yourself. Is there really much difference at 140 than 133 with a fast "A" car? Either wreck would be very bad. If a racer is concerned then he should have every piece of equipment no matter how slow the car is.

[johnny shot]

Originally Posted by Steve Williams

You are misinformed. 145 MPH into your door and you will die. 85 MPH against the wall or rollover stands a much greater chance to walk away. The evil of breakout racing is that this scenario plays itself out several times a year at drag strips across the United States. I have some qualification to speak on such matters, as I made a living reconstructing such accidents. Johnny Shot, whoever you may be, if you want to call me out as being unqualified or think that I am talking out of my rear end then atleast use your real name. The greater the difference in speed of the two vehicles, the greater the chance for an accident. This is fact. A good deal of lower classed cars only use a rollbar. Some of the lower classed cars use nothing. This type of accident has happen at LODRS events in the past and given the right circumstances, it will only be a matter of time before it happens at a national event. For the record, I am not a hater of the Mustangs or Dragpak Mopars. Faster closure rates aren't always a good thing. Especially a 60 MPH closure rate.

Nowhere in my post am I misinformed, as I formed my own opinion. To be misinformed would mean that I was informed with incorrect information from someone else which is not the case.
Nowhere in my post did I call you out, nor question your qualifications, nor suggest you were talking out your butt.
In my opinion, you are incorrect about getting hit at 145 mile per hour car in the door. The slow car would have to be stopped, which it is not, it would have to be sideways, which it is not. And on the odd chance that this perfect storm of yours is played out, my guess is the outcome would be bad even if the stopped driver were strapped into a Pro Stocker. I'm no physics expert, but it is impossible for a car going 145 mph to make an instant 90 degree turn and hit the target at that same speed. Should A Dragsters, Pro-Mods and all the 5 and 6 second comp cars be thrown out of comp because there are slow G Super Mods? HUGE closing speeds, same finish line games, same risk.
All this is pointless. Your safety angle (closing rate) has been used, unsuccessfully in every handicap class from brackets on up to comp.
Lastly, as mentioned any driver that feels unsafe may upgrade their safety equipment beyond the minimum standards.
There are plenty of valid reasons to re-classify these cars, closing rate is not one of them.

[Steve Williams]

Johnny Shot-The faster car is usually the one who crosses the track and T-Bones the slower one. This is Stockers. Not Pro Mod/Stock or Comp. You have obviously never seen this happen or heard of this happening. In BREAKOUT racing, people get on the brakes and this is usually what starts the sequence of events in motion. This does not have to be a "perfect storm" to happen. If that was the case, then there are alot of perfect storms happening every year. Potential high 8 second cars have no business running with 16 second cars where the closure rate is 60 MPH or more. This ain't about hating on Mustangs-it is about what is safe. Thanks again for opinion, whatever your name is.

[Sean Cour]

Originally Posted by Steve Williams

Just imagine what would happen if that car locked up the brakes in the lights, turned hard and struck a lower class car that is not required to have much safety equipment. 145 MPH car hitting an 85 MPH car in the door. Food for thought. Time to move these rocket ships into Super Stock, if for no other reason than safety. When I said that these cars could run in the 8's fairly easily, most everybody looked at me with the stink eye. How much are they opening the throttle to achieve 9.30's? 65%?

Really?!