worst red light debate, again!

[Ed Wright]

[QUOTE=bill dedman;254857]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright;254743 "Most racers do not want or care about this. "

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How many racers who run Stock and Super Stock have you interviewed aboit this??? Or, is this based on your worthless poll?

Please answer the question. I want to know where this opinion of yours comes from.

Doesn't matter, ain't gonna happen, but:
It (among other things here) has been discussed, and laughed about, in the staging lanes while killing time waiting for the endless line of throttle stop engines-on-a-stick cars run ahead of us. The slow cars that might be in favor are in the minority. You have not seen any polls here, or anywhere else, with my name on it.

Isn't there a bracket racing section here?

[Ed Fernandez]

Thanks again Claude.

[7423]

Bill Dedman
I will say that your opinion on the VERY DEAD topic is entertaining. But ya know what they say, "You can't fight city hall", because in this case, city hall doesn't really give a damn. Lets take it from the top, you leave first, you go red first, you loose first. Its been that way for a long while and will stay like that for a longer while. I think you should put your efforts into another fantasy, maybe Pam Anderson, seems to work for some of the other patrons here.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I stage dead shallow and leave on the bottom bulb too. I also like looking at a clean tree. To me, that is my advantage to leaving first and taking the chance of being the first to go red.
Now why can't we talk about something like the shameful purses we have to run for. If we're going to discuss something that doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of happening anyway why couldn't it be the purse?

Anecdotal evidence, Billy Boy!
Yes, and Toby won his very next race after deep staging was banned.
Does that mean that the option should be totally removed for everyone? I think not.

Every one of these bogus rulings, tech over reaches, going against the printed rule book, phony factory combos and horsepower ratings, ...you end up making the whole deal more expensive. Then you lose a few more good racers.
Whadda ya got now?

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I stage dead shallow and leave on the bottom bulb too. I also like looking at a clean tree. To me, that is my advantage to leaving first and taking the chance of being the first to go red.
Now why can't we talk about something like the shameful purses we have to run for. If we're going to discuss something that doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of happening anyway why couldn't it be the purse?

Billy, I'm with you and Lane on shallow staging, and the bottom bulb thing, but as for the purses? I think of why my luster for racing for class Wally's is gone...the class contingencies are down to $100 bucks (if not $50) for my car, so it would hardly be worth it for me to get into that "enhanced" class racing format that Glendora blessed us with this year....thus the only good that comes from that is racing in near regular elimination conditions.

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Billy, I'm with you and Lane on shallow staging, and the bottom bulb thing, but as for the purses? I think of why my luster for racing for class Wally's is gone...the class contingencies are down to $100 bucks (if not $50) for my car, so it would hardly be worth it for me to get into that "enhanced" class racing format that Glendora blessed us with this year....thus the only good that comes from that is racing in near regular elimination conditions.

Ah, the master plan is working!............. and then there were NONE!

BTW Gary... Happy Birthday Dude!!!! Jim

[Jim Wahl]

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Makes no difference. Not going to change. Don't like it? Build a faster car or quit. Whining on a message board won't do a thing.
This is lame.

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Does not matter. It's not going to change. Get over it or go do something else. Debating it won't change a thing. Go debate with the people that make the rules: NHRA. The people here have nothing to say about it. Makes no difference what anybody here thinks. Just does not matter what is said here. Get it?

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Bill, approaching NHRA as I mentioned and whining on an Internet message board are two different things. Going on & on about it here does nothing. More people wanted cars weighed with the drivers than want this changed. Remember the poll done here? Most racers do not want or care about this. Get over it. Not going to happen. I would like to take long showers with Pamela Anderson too. That ain't gonna happen either.

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Doesn't matter what you or I think Bill, it ain't gonna change because a small group complains about it here. Talk to N & I HRA. No leverage here. Surely your bright enough to get that. Ten (or fewer) guys on an Internet message board is not going to change that.

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright View Post
Doesn't matter, ain't gonna happen, but:
It (among other things here) has been discussed, and laughed about, in the staging lanes while killing time waiting for the endless line of throttle stop engines-on-a-stick cars run ahead of us. The slow cars that might be in favor are in the minority. You have not seen any polls here, or anywhere else, with my name on it.

Isn't there a bracket racing section here?

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In the end, Bill's ( or anybody else's) long-azzed rants do not matter. It won't change.

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What a radical idea! Petition NHRA instead of ranting endlessly on an internet message board! WOW!!

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As I have stated many times before: I don't care either way. Read that again. I said petition NHRA instead of ranting here. Here = nothing. NHRA = maybe. That is how hp factors get reduced, not by endless message board rants.

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If they change it, just make it right by putting both the red light cars out.
It won't get changed here.

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It ain't gonna change by posting endless crap here. Talk to NHRA.






Hey, Ed, why don't you quit spamming this thread? We get the picture. How many times are you going to post the same thing over and over again?

Please put this thread in your ignore list or when you see a new post to this thread don't click on it, OK?


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[david ring]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I also like looking at a clean tree. To me, that is my advantage to leaving first and taking the chance of being the first to go red.

Billy,

To quote the Talking Heads: "Stop Making Sense."

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by david ring

Billy,

To quote the Talking Heads: "Stop Making Sense."

That makes NO SENSE, since changing to a "worst red light" rule won't change your leaving on a clean tree. You will still have that under a worse red light rule.

It does, however point out that even with this plethora of posts, there are still people who don't understand all the vagaries of this different system.

[Tom keedle]

Originally Posted by The Hawk

I run a slow classed Stocker and shallow stage as much as the rest do,and leave on the bottom light. I`ve never had a problem hitting the tree good consistantly,and I`ve never needed to deep stage it. That`s a moot point too.

"run"!?!?
did you change your mind about running a stocker?