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Old 12-10-2011, 03:27 PM   #1
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I thought the Big go at Great Bend was to eliminate the Heaters. Any heads up winner should be inspected. -Trevor
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:58 PM   #2
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I think you should have your engine sealed when entering a race.
Once engine is sealed the seal cannot be removed without a tear-down, except for a carb change and the carb should be inspected at this time and re-sealed.
As far as the engine seal goes ,once it is sealed it can be checked at random for any given race and should be told this. If seal has been broken before actual tear-down then it is considered to have been illegal in the first place and should be DQ'd on the spot.
The DQ time will be determined on how many races was run before actual tear-down.
If you know your engine is legal then you should not have a problem with this system.
If you want to make changes before you have been torn down then you still must go through tear=down. Say you went to 4 races before you actually got torn down and you were foung illegal, then the penalty should be 4 races and then come back and torn down before you race and get a diff (certain) color seal showing you have been torn down,.
Also let that seal be good for the rest of the season.

In IHRA ,we have gone to the engine builder's shops and checked engines. After engine was approved it was sealed on the spot and was good for the current year.And has to be torn down again for the next year......Kind of like a chassis cert,but a little diff.
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Old 12-10-2011, 05:38 PM   #3
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I think you should have your engine sealed when entering a race.
Once engine is sealed the seal cannot be removed without a tear-down, except for a carb change and the carb should be inspected at this time and re-sealed.
As far as the engine seal goes ,once it is sealed it can be checked at random for any given race and should be told this. If seal has been broken before actual tear-down then it is considered to have been illegal in the first place and should be DQ'd on the spot.
The DQ time will be determined on how many races was run before actual tear-down.
If you know your engine is legal then you should not have a problem with this system.
If you want to make changes before you have been torn down then you still must go through tear=down. Say you went to 4 races before you actually got torn down and you were foung illegal, then the penalty should be 4 races and then come back and torn down before you race and get a diff (certain) color seal showing you have been torn down,.
Also let that seal be good for the rest of the season.

In IHRA ,we have gone to the engine builder's shops and checked engines. After engine was approved it was sealed on the spot and was good for the current year.And has to be torn down again for the next year......Kind of like a chassis cert,but a little diff.
I have had my engine sealed within the last year, forget where, probably the sports nationals. If you are saying to paint the carb, intake, and a head bolt, that's not a bad idea
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Old 12-10-2011, 05:48 PM   #4
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I like the way IHRA does teardown now before record run,that way car is making record attempt it has already been verified it's legal.
If I was wanting to be sure I had all legal field of cars I would change to all cars had to be verified legal before being allowed to race,then seal engine and as long as seal is'nt broken you're good.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:07 PM   #5
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I think you should have your engine sealed when entering a race.
Once engine is sealed the seal cannot be removed without a tear-down, except for a carb change and the carb should be inspected at this time and re-sealed.
As far as the engine seal goes ,once it is sealed it can be checked at random for any given race and should be told this. If seal has been broken before actual tear-down then it is considered to have been illegal in the first place and should be DQ'd on the spot.
The DQ time will be determined on how many races was run before actual tear-down.
If you know your engine is legal then you should not have a problem with this system.
If you want to make changes before you have been torn down then you still must go through tear=down. Say you went to 4 races before you actually got torn down and you were foung illegal, then the penalty should be 4 races and then come back and torn down before you race and get a diff (certain) color seal showing you have been torn down,.
Also let that seal be good for the rest of the season.

In IHRA ,we have gone to the engine builder's shops and checked engines. After engine was approved it was sealed on the spot and was good for the current year.And has to be torn down again for the next year......Kind of like a chassis cert,but a little diff.
What happens when someone freshens up their motor or changes engines during the year???? This breaks the seal or in the case of an engine change, shows up with no seal at all.
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Old 12-10-2011, 10:30 PM   #6
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You ain't going to stop cheating so don't beat your head against a wall. What needs to be done is enforce the safety rules. I can tell you from my own experience, that the last time an NHRA Tech guy asked me to place my transmission in gear and attempt to start the engine was back in 2007 at Bradenton. I wonder how many cars are lacking the neutral safety switches. Safety right now is what we should concern ourselves about.
I obviously didnt tech your car this year.

I asked every driver this year to do this at the races I worked tech. Many said I was the FIRST to ever ask them to do that. Some guys looked at me like I was joking. Several almost flatout refused. Many thanked me for being thorough. Even sent a few back to the trailer because the neutral safety didnt work. Since I work tech AND safety I might look at things differently.
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Back in the 80's IHRA would randomly pick either S-SS-or Modified. All class winners/qualifiers would go to tech. I remember several times we had to teardown at those races.
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:03 AM   #8
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Run what you brung , Limited tech , cubic inch and carb or trottle body super charger size for engine claimed for that year forget the rest . Nothing is stock anymore and nothing is super stock either . Tech cars when you ckeck in , when you win class and if you win or RU race

This would save the sanctioning bodies a lot of grief and the racers would sort it out on the track
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:29 AM   #9
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Run what you brung , Limited tech , cubic inch and carb or trottle body super charger size for engine claimed for that year forget the rest . Nothing is stock anymore and nothing is super stock either . Tech cars when you ckeck in , when you win class and if you win or RU race

This would save the sanctioning bodies a lot of grief and the racers would sort it out on the track
Bo, I'm sure you've run this one past your broker already because even you won't last long under those rules. Not to mention, when it goes away for lack of participation in a couple of years it's an expensive bracket car. Or maybe you could just sit on it for 20 years and restore it for B-J.
If it gets that bad I still like my idea, engine has to look stock, stock hood, 9" tire, no class designation, no heads-up. Everyone just dials in and races. We could just call the whole thing "Stock". Or ET-2.
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Old 12-11-2011, 10:33 PM   #10
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Run what you brung , Limited tech , cubic inch and carb or trottle body super charger size for engine claimed for that year forget the rest . Nothing is stock anymore and nothing is super stock either . Tech cars when you ckeck in , when you win class and if you win or RU race

This would save the sanctioning bodies a lot of grief and the racers would sort it out on the track

Getting closer to that every day.
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