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Old 01-19-2012, 07:59 PM   #1
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Default Re: Rocker Clarification is up!!!

I would say that clears up a lot of questions!
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:20 PM   #2
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Default Re: Rocker Clarification is up!!!

do the roller rockers have to be steel or is aluminum ok?

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Old 01-19-2012, 08:56 PM   #3
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Default Re: Rocker Clarification is up!!!

I think they still need to add one line -

Aftermarket rocker arms must have same ratio as OEM for engine horsepower claimed

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OEM or Aftermarket rocker arms with any ratio permitted

I do like the new rule about being able to reinforce an OEM steel rocker arm!

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Old 01-19-2012, 10:34 PM   #4
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Cool Re: Rocker Clarification is up!!!

Anybody have a brand name and part number? It would be nice to see what we need to buy.
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:55 PM   #5
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Default Re: Rocker Clarification is up!!!

http://www.nhra.com/UserFiles/file/2...01-19-2012.pdf
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:07 AM   #6
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Anybody have a brand name and part number? It would be nice to see what we need to buy.
Those, if they're going to be listed, would be in the "Accepted Products" list.

As of just now, there is no rocker arm category listed.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:23 AM   #7
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Question Re: Rocker Clarification is up!!!

So if I show up with Harlan Sharp 1.7 roller rockers on my 327 I'm OK? Are they going to check the ratio?

Still a lot of "what if's"!

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Old 01-20-2012, 10:21 AM   #8
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Default Re: Rocker Clarification is up!!!

Rocker Ratio is defined in your Engine Specifications in the guide.
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Old 01-21-2012, 11:42 AM   #9
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So if I show up with Harlan Sharp 1.7 roller rockers on my 327 I'm OK? Are they going to check the ratio?

Still a lot of "what if's"!

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Some time back on another thread under the Tech section, we discussed push rod length and how to optimize it. Quite a lot of discussion resulted in the description of the desmodronic valvetrain commonly found in the various Kettering overhead valve engines. What it boiled down to in layman's language was that push rod length could affect rocker arm ratio.My 327 has a max allowable lift on the intakes of.390". That means that lobe length at the cam has to be .260" with a perfect 1.5 ratio rocker arm. We all know in the real world that nothing is ever perfect in consistant enough quantities to ever be counted on.The trick here is to have a valvetrain where the lobe lift is 2/3rds the valve lift. We discussed how a short pushrod with the same cam lift,rocker arm and lifter could result in a different lift at the valve than a long pushrod. The means for determining rocker arm ratios is to first determine valve lift at the retainer, as it's checked by NHRA,then divide that figure by the cam lobe lift, checked at the lifter,and it should verify the ACTUAL rocker arm ratio. With a roller tip rocker arm,some of the problems associated with OEM stamped arms vanish, but it will be interesting to see what new factors creep up as we start doing this.I am about to reassemble my 327 stocker motor soon, I'll compare results obtained with it as it goes together. I bought a new Dart block,had Gregg Luneack machine it and deck it, I'll soon see what possibly changed. The discussion we had on the Tech section a few months ago got so involved that before we were done, the various compilations of info resulted in a mini-textbook on push rod length. Fun reading!!
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