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Old 05-18-2012, 09:06 PM   #81
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I am a parent as well. My son is 17. My daughter is 25.

But I understand exactly why Zimmerman was armed.

I also understand why he was out of his vehicle.

We have reached the point where hard working people are tired of being robbed and put upon, from regular street criminals, to the criminals in government.

I'm sure Zimmerman never wanted to shoot anyone, very few people ever do want to shoot anyone.

If you just want to shoot someone, you don't go through all the steps to make everything legal, getting a permit, buying a weapon through legal means, and calling the police.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:08 PM   #82
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I got this in an email. I don't know who the author is


"One of my favorite rants...the liberal controlled media...television news...newspapers...magazines...radio...all continue to show 12 year old Trayvon...NOT 17 year old Trayvon...they continue to show the 5 year old picture BECAUSE it helps to cement in your mind the little, cute, hoodie wearing youngster who was stalked by this monster.In reality.."little Trayvon"...at the time of his death...stood almost 6'2" tall...weighed 175 muscular pounds...had numerous run ins with authorities (both at school and local police)...

had been stopped and almost arrested two days before his death for...smacking a bus driver in the face...because the driver refused to let him ride for free... he was released because the driver was told not to press charges by the bus company and to continue on his route.When "little Trayvon" was suspended at school...it was not only because he tried to bring a little marijuana in with him...he was in possession of wedding rings and other jewelry...watches etc. that he said he "found" along with a large screwdriver...while on the way to school that day...the jewelry was turned over to the Police by the school.I am not trying to say this was a good shooting...I am not trying to say this kid deserved to die...I am saying...the media in the USA is controlled by liberals who twist and distort what you see and hear in order for you to see things their way.Not a single paper has printed RECENT photos of this kid...because...it would not keep your interest in this case...Not a single paper will admit that this kid was a marijuana dealer...his friends on facebook all say he had the "best plants"...Not a single paper will show you any of his recent photos where he shows off a mouthful of gold teeth....all of his tattoos...

Not a single paper will tell the news like it really is....and NOT how they want you to think it is..."


I had to delete the last paragraph due to the bozo's name that was mentioned..

Let me just say..If I had a son I WOULD NOT want him to look just like Trayvon Martin.
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I am a parent as well. My son is 17. My daughter is 25.

But I understand exactly why Zimmerman was armed.

I also understand why he was out of his vehicle.

We have reached the point where hard working people are tired of being robbed and put upon, from regular street criminals, to the criminals in government.

I'm sure Zimmerman never wanted to shoot anyone, very few people ever do want to shoot anyone.

If you just want to shoot someone, you don't go through all the steps to make everything legal, getting a permit, buying a weapon through legal means, and calling the police.
Give me your thoughts on why Zimmerman was armed and why he was out of his car? I am just curious, was he the victim of a previous crime?
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Give me your thoughts on why Zimmerman was armed and why he was out of his car? I am just curious, was he the victim of a previous crime?
I'll take a shot at your second question...


Looks like a large complex with a lot of sidewalks between the various buildings ..Possibly Zimmerman could not keep visual contact with the suspect from the parking lot.

See pic #9 >
http://www.foxnews.com/us/slideshow/...eased/#slide=1
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You act as though it is improper for a citizen to own and carry a firearm. That simply is not the case. Citizens in this nation have the right to own and carry a firearm or firearms

As a wise man once said, when seconds count, the police are minutes away.

They had several break ins in that complex. As I said, people are sick of being crime victims. Honest citizens have reached the point where they're simply no longer going to be run over by criminals. There is no reason any honest law abiding citizen should have to put up with criminals, or be defenseless.

I can't tell you what Zimmerman had on his mind, but every report from everyone in his complex said that he was honestly and genuinely concerned with crime. Again, according to previous reports, there had been break ins in that complex, at least one happened when a female victim was in her home alone. The perpetrators had repeatedly escaped capture and prosecution. Zimmerman's wife regularly stayed home alone. I can easily see where he would be extremely concerned. I know I would be, since my daughter stays home by herself.

Martin's death is a very sad thing. But it took two people to create that confrontation. Giving Martin a complete pass because he was a black teenager while attempting to crucify Zimmerman is simply ludicrous.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:29 PM   #86
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You act as though it is improper for a citizen to own and carry a firearm. That simply is not the case. Citizens in this nation have the right to own and carry a firearm or firearms

As a wise man once said, when seconds count, the police are minutes away.

They had several break ins in that complex. As I said, people are sick of being crime victims. Honest citizens have reached the point where they're simply no longer going to be run over by criminals. There is no reason any honest law abiding citizen should have to put up with criminals, or be defenseless.

I can't tell you what Zimmerman had on his mind, but every report from everyone in his complex said that he was honestly and genuinely concerned with crime. Again, according to previous reports, there had been break ins in that complex, at least one happened when a female victim was in her home alone. The perpetrators had repeatedly escaped capture and prosecution. Zimmerman's wife regularly stayed home alone. I can easily see where he would be extremely concerned. I know I would be, since my daughter stays home by herself.

Martin's death is a very sad thing. But it took two people to create that confrontation. Giving Martin a complete pass because he was a black teenager while attempting to crucify Zimmerman is simply ludicrous.
I don't know what the question was because I have blocked Eddie, however I can say I agree with you 100% Alan.

A couple of other facts:
Zimmerman possessed a Florida issued Concealed Weapon (CCW), Security Officer (D) and a State Gun (G) license. He is a duly licensed armed security officer meeting all requirements of the State of Florida. Martin picked the wrong guy to confront and attack. End of story. Jim


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You act as though it is improper for a citizen to own and carry a firearm. That simply is not the case. Citizens in this nation have the right to own and carry a firearm or firearms

As a wise man once said, when seconds count, the police are minutes away.

They had several break ins in that complex. As I said, people are sick of being crime victims. Honest citizens have reached the point where they're simply no longer going to be run over by criminals. There is no reason any honest law abiding citizen should have to put up with criminals, or be defenseless.

I can't tell you what Zimmerman had on his mind, but every report from everyone in his complex said that he was honestly and genuinely concerned with crime. Again, according to previous reports, there had been break ins in that complex, at least one happened when a female victim was in her home alone. The perpetrators had repeatedly escaped capture and prosecution. Zimmerman's wife regularly stayed home alone. I can easily see where he would be extremely concerned. I know I would be, since my daughter stays home by herself.

Martin's death is a very sad thing. But it took two people to create that confrontation. Giving Martin a complete pass because he was a black teenager while attempting to crucify Zimmerman is simply ludicrous.
. I could not agree more. But when it is all said and done, any bets that anyone will apologize from the Trayvon supporters???? I don't believe so...it takes someone with character and values to do that.
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. I could not agree more. But when it is all said and done, any bets that anyone will apologize from the Trayvon supporters???? I don't believe so...it takes someone with character and values to do that.
I think the Duke Lacrosse fiasco taught us a lot about the "Travonists". They are the same knee-jerk close-minded racists. Apology? Ha! I wouldn't hold my breath.

Did anyone else notice how large poor little baby child Trayvon was in the 7-11 video? 6'2" and 180 pound baby. Oh and his girlfriend said he had his hoodie up because it was raining. Was it raining in the store also? Hoodie was up the whole time.

Thug mentality. It'll get you killed! Look at all the rap guys who are always getting shot. Live by it... die by it! Jim


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. I could not agree more. But when it is all said and done, any bets that anyone will apologize from the Trayvon supporters???? I don't believe so...it takes someone with character and values to do that.
I fully expect to see the Injustice Dept. under Eric Holder run over Zimmerman like a steam roller, whether or not the state is able to get any sort of a conviction.

It is painfully obvious, to anyone thinking clearly, and paying attention, that Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman, and was slamming his head onto the ground or onto concrete. Trayvon Martin made the choice to attack George Zimmerman. No one made him. When you make a choice to violently assault someone, you run the risk that they will produce a weapon and kill you. To quote Obama, "he acted stupidly".

All the rest is just B.S. and window dressing. It's obvious Zimmerman didn't have his gun out and confront Martin. If Zimmerman had his gun out, does anyone, with any sense at all, think Zimmerman would have allowed Martin to break and bloody his nose, black his eyes, and bash his head on the ground until his scalp split, and only then decided to shoot Martin with a gun he already had out? Seriously?

Yeah, a teenager is dead, it's a shame. But he's dead because he made a choice to attack someone. Even if Zimmerman confronted Martin, there was still no valid reason for Martin to jump Zimmerman and try to beat him to death. None. Do you attempt to physically assault every person who rubs you the wrong way? If you do, be prepared for one of them to kill you.
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I fully expect to see the Injustice Dept. under Eric Holder run over Zimmerman like a steam roller, whether or not the state is able to get any sort of a conviction.

It is painfully obvious, to anyone thinking clearly, and paying attention, that Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman, and was slamming his head onto the ground or onto concrete. Trayvon Martin made the choice to attack George Zimmerman. No one made him. When you make a choice to violently assault someone, you run the risk that they will produce a weapon and kill you. To quote Obama, "he acted stupidly".

All the rest is just B.S. and window dressing. It's obvious Zimmerman didn't have his gun out and confront Martin. If Zimmerman had his gun out, does anyone, with any sense at all, think Zimmerman would have allowed Martin to break and bloody his nose, black his eyes, and bash his head on the ground until his scalp split, and only then decided to shoot Martin with a gun he already had out? Seriously?

Yeah, a teenager is dead, it's a shame. But he's dead because he made a choice to attack someone. Even if Zimmerman confronted Martin, there was still no valid reason for Martin to jump Zimmerman and try to beat him to death. None. Do you attempt to physically assault every person who rubs you the wrong way? If you do, be prepared for one of them to kill you.
Damn Alan! We might not agree all the time but I gotta say you got this right 100% ! Next time I see you (hope it's soon) I'll buy! Jim

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