The damage recently done

Billy Nees · 09-07-2012, 10:03 AM

by a handful of AMC racers and the NHRA Tech Dept. to Stock and SS eliminators is FAR worse and FAR more reaching than any of the new Factory Specials will ever be! The Tech Dept. might just as well do away with Stock and SS right now, give us all 780 Holleys, aluminium intakes and heads and .477 lift cams and call us what we are fast becoming, ET-2.
Look it up yourselves, 66-72 AMC blueprint specs. And nobody got notified about a change.

Billy Nees · 09-07-2012, 12:44 PM

Now Jeff, responding to your post on another thread, I have sitting in front of me a bunch of musty old books entitled,"AMC Technical Revisions and Dealership Notes". I have 65-68 and 70-72. We haven't found 69 yet but be patient. Now I've just quickly broused through the books and haven't found anything yet. Group1-Engines, Group6-Fuel and Exhaust, and Group19- Performance Parts (68-70-72 only) and I'm not finding anything. Maybe you could tell me where it is that I'm going to find notices for these parts that were allegedly installed by the dealers to replace the factory parts?

Andrew Hill · 09-07-2012, 12:52 PM

Quote from the NHRA rule book, in the engine section: "Equipment other than original factory-installed prohibited. Any special equipment export kit (superchargers, dealer-installed options, etc.) automatically disqualifies car."

Well, did the factory ever put a 780 holley or an aluminum edelbrock manifold on these AMCs?

Rory McNeil · 09-07-2012, 12:59 PM

Wow, I just checked the qualifying at the Div. 6 Woodburn LODRS race, and after the first session, Jim Mantles AMC Pacer is #1 qualifier! I wonder if the 258 6 banger recieved some of this new AMC enhancing!!

Billy Nees · 09-07-2012, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill

Quote from the NHRA rule book, in the engine section: "Equipment other than original factory-installed prohibited. Any special equipment export kit (superchargers, dealer-installed options, etc.) automatically disqualifies car."

Well, did the factory ever put a 780 holley or an aluminum edelbrock manifold on these AMCs?

Yes Jeff, we're waiting. Tell me the Group number and date.

James Perrone · 09-07-2012, 01:45 PM

And I cant have a 350 LT1 motor combo in a 1970 NOVA...!!!
Anything in the AMC book for me Billy...lol

BlueOval Ralph · 09-07-2012, 01:59 PM

Not saying this happened but at that time AMC was using the Ford Autolite carbs like on the 429/460 maybee this 780 Holley appeared the same time frame as the Holley 780 for the 351 Cleveland's. Those cars used the Autolite 4100 and 4300 D was Fords version of a Q-Jet. Could this have happened?

JRyan · 09-07-2012, 02:01 PM

Amen James! I'd love to put the LT-1 in mine as well.

Billy Nees · 09-07-2012, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

Not saying this happened but at that time AMC was using the Ford Autolite carbs like on the 429/460 maybee this 780 Holley appeared the same time frame as the Holley 780 for the 351 Cleveland's. Those cars used the Autolite 4100 and 4300 D was Fords version of a Q-Jet. Could this have happened?

429 CJ got Q-Jet, 429 SCJ got 780. Base 351 got Autolite, Boss 351 and 351 CJ got 780. Different manifolds and cams.

Charley Downing · 09-07-2012, 02:13 PM

You can it's called super stock Gt
Just joking this AMC deal is to much even for me and iam a new bogas ford guy

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Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,489 Likes: 3,593 Liked 7,700 Times in 1,734 Posts	Re: The damage recently done Now Jeff, responding to your post on another thread, I have sitting in front of me a bunch of musty old books entitled,"AMC Technical Revisions and Dealership Notes". I have 65-68 and 70-72. We haven't found 69 yet but be patient. Now I've just quickly broused through the books and haven't found anything yet. Group1-Engines, Group6-Fuel and Exhaust, and Group19- Performance Parts (68-70-72 only) and I'm not finding anything. Maybe you could tell me where it is that I'm going to find notices for these parts that were allegedly installed by the dealers to replace the factory parts? __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

09-07-2012, 12:52 PM	#3
Andrew Hill Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 700 Likes: 446 Liked 170 Times in 38 Posts	Re: The damage recently done Quote from the NHRA rule book, in the engine section: "Equipment other than original factory-installed prohibited. Any special equipment export kit (superchargers, dealer-installed options, etc.) automatically disqualifies car." Well, did the factory ever put a 780 holley or an aluminum edelbrock manifold on these AMCs? __________________ 3207 D/SA, C/ED

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Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 316 Liked 1,103 Times in 301 Posts	Re: The damage recently done Wow, I just checked the qualifying at the Div. 6 Woodburn LODRS race, and after the first session, Jim Mantles AMC Pacer is #1 qualifier! I wonder if the 258 6 banger recieved some of this new AMC enhancing!! __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

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James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,676 Likes: 3,373 Liked 1,810 Times in 425 Posts	Re: The damage recently done And I cant have a 350 LT1 motor combo in a 1970 NOVA...!!! Anything in the AMC book for me Billy...lol __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

09-07-2012, 01:59 PM	#7
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The damage recently done Not saying this happened but at that time AMC was using the Ford Autolite carbs like on the 429/460 maybee this 780 Holley appeared the same time frame as the Holley 780 for the 351 Cleveland's. Those cars used the Autolite 4100 and 4300 D was Fords version of a Q-Jet. Could this have happened?

09-07-2012, 10:03 AM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,489 Likes: 3,593 Liked 7,700 Times in 1,734 Posts	The damage recently done by a handful of AMC racers and the NHRA Tech Dept. to Stock and SS eliminators is FAR worse and FAR more reaching than any of the new Factory Specials will ever be! The Tech Dept. might just as well do away with Stock and SS right now, give us all 780 Holleys, aluminium intakes and heads and .477 lift cams and call us what we are fast becoming, ET-2. Look it up yourselves, 66-72 AMC blueprint specs. And nobody got notified about a change. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

09-07-2012, 02:01 PM	#8
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: The damage recently done Amen James! I'd love to put the LT-1 in mine as well.

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Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: The damage recently done You can it's called super stock Gt Just joking this AMC deal is to much even for me and iam a new bogas ford guy __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 09-07-2012 at 02:15 PM.