GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show

[NBD MGT]

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

They will go faster when it is needed but it will not cost them any money. They will just open the throttle body a little more. They might even need to start opening the secondaries.

Which combinations run secondaries fully or mostly closed?

[TOSTO RACING]

Nhra could make the trigger off the 1/8th mile timers that would make this whole thing catch up with itself pretty fast.. Or anyone caught going 9.06 at 73 mph (example new or old car) gets 10 hp automatically for lifting lol!

[Crew Chief]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Bill "Farmer" Dismuke would have already fixed this.

He would have put the cars in FX and let them fight it out heads up. Then we would see how many checkbook racers there would be. Just like any heads up class...a few would dominate and the rest trying to play would be "also rans". (Sounds like SS/AH doesn't it?)

[Charley Downing]

Can someone show me in the NHRA rule book where it reads all stk or ss cars should be rated Fairly and equal. All Combos have had there time at the top and ten years from now it will be someone different.

Mark I don't think its disrespect of old cars almost all the racers new and old like the older cars. its more racers wanting to change and always improve with technology. Can you tell me any other sport when old technology is able to compete at the same level with new technology? In NASCAR if you run a five year old motor you get lapped.

If all the old cars just go away ( which I think is what they want ) How many brand new cars will show up race to race? If this number dwindles, how long before the eliminator is disbanded? I'd feel pretty bad if I had to take my
100K class car and strictly bracket race it. What a waste.
Same could be said for the old cars. I think we need to work together to preserve each others best interest.
What fun can somebody have, racing a guy you have by .6 to 1.0 faster because of soft factoring, and superior technology? Like killing a snail with a sledge hammer. Close competition with what builds the excitement, and gets your blood pumping. Not a sure win with no chance of loosing.

If NHRA is going to blend us into super stock next year, it would be nice to get a heads up. I would stop spending money on my car, and get ready for a transition out of drag racing. We need to work together on this. NHRA is not going to do it, or cares to.

[Charley Downing]

Mark do you think all the guys in the 1990's liked the LT1 @ 275 HP? They were able to beat older cars single handed(what happend there). Just like the olds combos of the 1980's. just like the mopar combos of the 1960's. New cars beating old cars is nothing new.

If you look at all class winners at INDY this year they were mostly old cars. There were 8 total class winners with cars newer then 2007. AA,BB,CC FS/S,F/SA,E/SA,A/SA and stick combo. 8 out of the 28 stk class winners.
AA,BB,CC and FS/S are mostly new car classes. When you take that into account that means only 4 classes a INDY were affected by new cars.

[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Bill "Farmer" Dismuke would have already fixed this.

Watch it Ed. This ain't the 1970's/1980's anymore crowd will pile on you! LOL

[treessavoy]

I quit!

Some people can't or won't see the reality in this situation.

I think I'll just take my PT Cruiser and put slicks on it..........er, front or back?

JimR

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by treessavoy

Some people can't or won't see the reality in this situation.JimR

The reality in this situation is that we're all a bunch of spoiled brats who are lucky enough to live in the country that we do that gives us the opportunities that we have to race and play with cars.
Lyons, get a dictionary, CharlieBob, learn how to spell.
Now I'm going junkyarding! (oops, searching for performance parts)

[Bernie Cunningham]

Mark,
You've done all ya can do here, thank you, you're spot on and i reckon 85% of racers are with ya, however, while everything you have said is perfect and straight to the point and factually correct it won't count, right !! WTF, why ??

Don't we need a statement that says what is good for our sport? We are all heavily invested in the same thing but the system is fractured !

Just like the latest US election, ya can't fix stupid. Naive and under informed opinions abound cause this world is now made up of people that only want what's good for themselves and their own selfish opinions and there own assess, that means forget the rest (**** you) mentality. Oh, don't forget about greed too, he he !
I believe that all of the above to be an unsustainable future in reality !

What a lot of people have neglected to mention is that the under factored crate motor/combos that are now legal will effect all and everyone, maybe except for H/I and down, their all coming for ya !!!!

Ya'll are fixing, as we go along, the AAA, AA, BB, CC big boys club and have completely forgotten to bitch about the combos that are still sliding their way thru F/SA and down, (could be lower for all i know) Most of these belong in the original A/B classes, but just like the LT1's back in the mid 90's, it'll take a years with the current system . BUGGAR !!!!