Pure Stock Thread - Foreign Makes - Page 2

Dan Fahey · 04-23-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Kopecky

I'm not sure that they will come. A few years ago, NHRA introduced the Sport Compact series to pull in the import cars. The series only lasted a very short time and then faded out and finally dissappeared.

Ken Kopecky
1454 E/SA

But you have to bring in the young generation that has some spending cash.
Not mega racing dollars.

Attract the kids.
Eventually about 80% will eventually fall out.
Kids, Jobs, school, stuff.
But you capture that other 20% that stays.

Dan

Terry Cain · 04-23-2013, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

But you have to bring in the young generation that has some spending cash.
Not mega racing dollars.

Attract the kids.
Eventually about 80% will eventually fall out.
Kids, Jobs, school, stuff.
But you capture that other 20% that stays.

Dan

Local track has a test and tune on Friday nights. Average Friday car count is close to 200. Most are kids with RICE rockets. They have fun but, I'm not sure many would want to follow the rules that close. They like to put turbo's and NOS to them.

ALMACK · 04-23-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry Cain

Local track has a test and tune on Friday nights. Average Friday car count is close to 200. Most are kids with RICE rockets. They have fun but, I'm not sure many would want to follow the rules that close. They like to put turbo's and NOS to them.

^^ So true.

Very few (if any) young kids want to spend money on a class car with tightly restricted rules
.
It's easier to just add their NAWWWWZZZZ........ LOL

Jack Matyas · 04-23-2013, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Kopecky

I'm not sure that they will come. A few years ago, NHRA introduced the Sport Compact series to pull in the import cars. The series only lasted a very short time and then faded out and finally dissappeared.

Ken Kopecky
1454 E/SA

OK- I'll jump in ......I agree with Kenny - it's been tried and failed to produce results .That and the fart can muffler era is long over ...............

7423 · 04-23-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

OK- I'll jump in ......I agree with Kenny - it's been tried and failed to produce results .That and the fart can muffler era is long over ...............

I do not know much about IHRA but NHRA sure needs a boost in moral and car count. That "fart can" crowd brings money and new blood and none of us are getting any younger.

Dan Fahey · 04-23-2013, 05:01 PM

Thanks for the response. Still there is hope.

We need their young blood...
So the Vampire American cars can suck their blood.

The world has changed around us and the sport has to grow what grows around it.

YEAH NHRA generates the Class Rules and Specifications.

IHRA can do that too and know what to do...
Do a little bit at at time.

Contact European and Asian car makers tell them what the intent is and to send in specs.
Establish 15 - 20 cars a year eligible for PS with in certain engine ranges.
Few in each category V8, V6, 4Cylinder especially the cars built here.
As it grows the initiatives it will migrate to Stock and Super Stock.

Sure some of those Supercharged and Turbocharged cars would give our new American Muscle a healthy run for the money.
The Caddy/G8/GTO are Aussie designed cars with American name tag.
Many have Sticks in them to help reclaim peoples man-card (as discussed in another forum)

I do not care what manufacture you build for. Our American employees will get a kick out of seeing their products compete. The new American pride building a great car regardless of the manufacturer. They are coming here because of our pride of craftsmanshp and work ethic. Celebrate it !!

If anyone wants to get confused about the genesis of America Design. Most of our WW2 aircraft were designed and built from Immigrant Engineers.
Done a quite A bit or research and publication in the past.

Japanese Zero used a Pratt Whitney designed engine, British Injection technology, Bendix instruments, Ignition and brakes, Hamilton Standard Propeller, later Browning 50 Caliber Machine guns. All on License !!

Nobody has a monopoly of the sun or monoply about ideas.

This is about racing and opening up IHRA to do something that NHRA does not want to do.
IHRA has to learn to do some of their own things to attract the public.

Coordinating with car manufacturers will bring out more sponsors from Dealerships.

Our 60 and 70's era is over and done amazingly well and will maintain a healthy future.

Without new blood and getting over the prejudices drag racing as we know it is going to make changes anyway.

Just want to capture some of that new emotion, get the public curious and provoke a little thinking.

Dan

Dan Fahey · 04-23-2013, 05:17 PM

Just to follow up on Tar Heel..

He just took a 26 mpg Corvette and made a few modifications and ran happily under the index on a tough day.

Based on my experience he put in about $2000 focused on the 3 T's
Tire, Trans(converter) , Tune and gear too and now competitive.
Bet when he drove it home got 20mpg..

Before all said an done will put in another $5000 to run a second plus under.

Will have reliability and not worry about high spring pressures wrecking his engine.

A lot of these ricers and euros if properly classified would be a stepping stone of this same process.

For everytime one of these new cars enters IHRA.
Some manufacturer is going to sell them parts.

It is not just about IHRA it is about the Parts.

Just like a womans dress...

IT is not just about the Dress
but the Amazing array of assessories that go with the entire package.

Mark Yacavone · 04-24-2013, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 7423

I do not know much about IHRA but NHRA sure needs a boost in moral and car count. That "fart can" crowd brings money and new blood and none of us are getting any younger.

I don't know, Charlie...Say what you want about NHRA..about whether they actually have a plan, or they just wing it, ....they always come back with something...right or wrong..
Let's look at this year's Gators... 35 % of the Stockers were new, factory race cars!
Plus they have a new clientele that won't mind paying $350 -400- even 500 dollar entries in a few years..
So what?..They lost a few of the low budget guys...Collateral damage!

I don't think they are worried about Pure Stock right now, do you?

7423 · 04-24-2013, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

I don't think they are worried about Pure Stock right now, do you?

Worried?? No Mark, they are not worried about anything that involves the sportsman racers. As long as the they can get big $ from the crowd for Top Eliminator seating on Sunday to watch the pros blow up and throw parts in the stands, all will be well in Glendora.

I am only suggesting a way to involve new blood in the sport. Mark, you have been racing for what, 5 or 6 decades? When was the last time you saw a youngster who wanted to race a 69 Camaro or a 2013 Camaro? Honda's are todays Hemi Cuda's and SS 396 Chevelle's.

I think it is time for a change.......................jus sayin'

04-23-2013, 05:01 PM	#6
Dan Fahey VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,128 Likes: 1,084 Liked 184 Times in 113 Posts	Re: Pure Stock Thread - Foreign Makes Thanks for the response. Still there is hope. We need their young blood... So the Vampire American cars can suck their blood. The world has changed around us and the sport has to grow what grows around it. YEAH NHRA generates the Class Rules and Specifications. IHRA can do that too and know what to do... Do a little bit at at time. Contact European and Asian car makers tell them what the intent is and to send in specs. Establish 15 - 20 cars a year eligible for PS with in certain engine ranges. Few in each category V8, V6, 4Cylinder especially the cars built here. As it grows the initiatives it will migrate to Stock and Super Stock. Sure some of those Supercharged and Turbocharged cars would give our new American Muscle a healthy run for the money. The Caddy/G8/GTO are Aussie designed cars with American name tag. Many have Sticks in them to help reclaim peoples man-card (as discussed in another forum) I do not care what manufacture you build for. Our American employees will get a kick out of seeing their products compete. The new American pride building a great car regardless of the manufacturer. They are coming here because of our pride of craftsmanshp and work ethic. Celebrate it !! If anyone wants to get confused about the genesis of America Design. Most of our WW2 aircraft were designed and built from Immigrant Engineers. Done a quite A bit or research and publication in the past. Japanese Zero used a Pratt Whitney designed engine, British Injection technology, Bendix instruments, Ignition and brakes, Hamilton Standard Propeller, later Browning 50 Caliber Machine guns. All on License !! Nobody has a monopoly of the sun or monoply about ideas. This is about racing and opening up IHRA to do something that NHRA does not want to do. IHRA has to learn to do some of their own things to attract the public. Coordinating with car manufacturers will bring out more sponsors from Dealerships. Our 60 and 70's era is over and done amazingly well and will maintain a healthy future. Without new blood and getting over the prejudices drag racing as we know it is going to make changes anyway. Just want to capture some of that new emotion, get the public curious and provoke a little thinking. Dan

04-23-2013, 05:17 PM	#7
Dan Fahey VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,128 Likes: 1,084 Liked 184 Times in 113 Posts	Re: Pure Stock Thread - Foreign Makes Just to follow up on Tar Heel.. He just took a 26 mpg Corvette and made a few modifications and ran happily under the index on a tough day. Based on my experience he put in about $2000 focused on the 3 T's Tire, Trans(converter) , Tune and gear too and now competitive. Bet when he drove it home got 20mpg.. Before all said an done will put in another $5000 to run a second plus under. Will have reliability and not worry about high spring pressures wrecking his engine. A lot of these ricers and euros if properly classified would be a stepping stone of this same process. For everytime one of these new cars enters IHRA. Some manufacturer is going to sell them parts. It is not just about IHRA it is about the Parts. Just like a womans dress... IT is not just about the Dress but the Amazing array of assessories that go with the entire package.