Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman - Page 2

Brett C · 05-09-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

i say NO. what should be done is to take and limit all stock super stock super gas super comp comp and so on at nationals events only. to grade points. put a number on each class for the amount lets say 75 per class and stick to it.first come first serve. races like houston if you have money and a NHRA # and pulse and no grade points you can enter. not fair to the ones that make points meets for grade points.that would make more room at nationals.why should you reward someone who has never raced before to go to a national event without paying your dues. JUST SAYING!!

Limit it to 64 and that takes an extra round out of the eliminations schedule.

Greenlight · 05-10-2013, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I think there are a lot of fans that also attend National events to see "regular" type cars.

In fact,there was a survey in National Dragster many years ago that asked fans...What is your favorite class?

The class that had the most votes was SUPER STOCK.

I don't think this would be a good move from the NHRA point of view.

I could see the end of National event payouts,if National events go away.NOT good for any Sportsman racer!

NHRA Fan Poll results: Favorite classes 05/01/2002

Funny Car 10.78%
Top Fuel 10.62%
Pro Stock 10.19%
Top Alcohol Dragster 7.58%
Top Alcohol Funny Car 7.55%
Pro Mod 7.46%
Pro Stock Bike 7.02%
Super Stock 6.80%
Comp 6.64%
Top Fuel Bike 5.93%
Stock 5.45%
Super Comp 5.03%
Super Gas 4.91%
Super Street 3.98%

Points values were assigned to all rankings 1-14. Percentages listed reflect the percentage of points earned of the available TOTAL, not the actual total of people who voted for the category or for that category’s position in the standings.

http://www.nhra.net/2002/news/May/050101.html

boster · 05-10-2013, 12:33 PM

Maybe Sportsman Thursday & Friday , Pro's Sat & Sun , that way everyone has a 2 day event

James Perrone · 05-10-2013, 01:01 PM

Im with Bo...finish by saturday.

Mike Graham · 05-09-2013, 07:52 PM

YES. National events have turned into "camping in a parking lot" If we were separate from pros there would be more racing less sitting.

j gardiner · 05-09-2013, 07:59 PM

You already have that it's called a divisional. IHRA already showed once you take the pros away everything else starts to go away.

Pistol Pete · 05-09-2013, 08:18 PM

Brett C has the right idea by Limiting car count to 64.

The only problem with that is: Most National Events have Stock & SS Class Run-offs.

I wonder if the future for Stk & SS will try to be 2 New Eliminators" ALL the New Cars Running Heads Up in there own Eliminator Quailifing 16 or 32 Cars.

Stk & SS will be a combined 128 Cars for their Eliminator with No More Class Run-Offs.

It would be nice seeing the New Cars going head to head on a Sportsman Level.
Quailify 16 or 32. It would be like a Jr. Pro Stock.
Or you can have them run like they do at the National Opens with 3 different classes
with Handicap starts, (probably a much fairer way for the Non-Professional Racer).

Yeah i like that proposal better. Handicap starts with break out rules in effect.

Just my 4 cents.

chris3racing · 05-09-2013, 08:56 PM

No. If sportsmen are pulled away that will be the end. If there were more cars and some paying spectator at division races NHRA would take notice of sportsman racing. Right now the only people in the stands are family and crew members and some of them never leave the big motorhomes or the pits.

Bruce Noland · 05-09-2013, 09:16 PM

nhra executives have pulled a few bone headed moves over the years and managed to survive, so far. But they know better than to attempt to separate the Pros and Sportsmen. nhra would be buried under Constitution Avenue.

Wade Mahaffey · 05-09-2013, 09:51 PM

Split them up. Sportsman nationals Sat-Sun the week prior to the Pros at each event. More room to park without all the pro cities and restaurants....more racing, less waiting, get it all done in two days....less need for days off work....more competitors per class back to over a hundred like I remember....class at each race....track prep tailored to sportsman needs...no clutch dust...sportsman credentials good for pro race if you want to stay...tear down selected cars after they loose in the eliminator...seal the selected cars at tech....if it rains, you got till next Friday to complete the sportsman portion...never have to come back for a reschedule...save fuel, time, aggravation, and Money. Classes for sportsman portion S, S/S, S/ST, S/G, S/C, Comp for the pros Use T/S, T/D, A/FC, A/D as fillers for the pros. Your boss would be happy with you missing less work. And racers families would be happier that your vacation days would be used for VACATION! LOL Just think about it....no more bitching and fussing about the pros....just racing and having fun again....keep the sportsman money in the sportsman race

Wade Mahaffey

05-10-2013, 12:33 PM	#3
boster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: usa Posts: 958 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman Maybe Sportsman Thursday & Friday , Pro's Sat & Sun , that way everyone has a 2 day event __________________ Bo Kenney

05-10-2013, 01:01 PM	#4
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,682 Likes: 3,394 Liked 1,829 Times in 427 Posts	Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman Im with Bo...finish by saturday. __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

05-09-2013, 07:52 PM	#5
Mike Graham Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 410 Likes: 1 Liked 341 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman YES. National events have turned into "camping in a parking lot" If we were separate from pros there would be more racing less sitting.

05-09-2013, 07:59 PM	#6
j gardiner Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: waldorf Posts: 221 Likes: 14 Liked 55 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman You already have that it's called a divisional. IHRA already showed once you take the pros away everything else starts to go away.

05-09-2013, 08:18 PM	#7
Pistol Pete VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Punta Gorda Isles, Fl. Posts: 1,629 Likes: 3,416 Liked 795 Times in 210 Posts	Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman Brett C has the right idea by Limiting car count to 64. The only problem with that is: Most National Events have Stock & SS Class Run-offs. I wonder if the future for Stk & SS will try to be 2 New Eliminators" ALL the New Cars Running Heads Up in there own Eliminator Quailifing 16 or 32 Cars. Stk & SS will be a combined 128 Cars for their Eliminator with No More Class Run-Offs. It would be nice seeing the New Cars going head to head on a Sportsman Level. Quailify 16 or 32. It would be like a Jr. Pro Stock. Or you can have them run like they do at the National Opens with 3 different classes with Handicap starts, (probably a much fairer way for the Non-Professional Racer). Yeah i like that proposal better. Handicap starts with break out rules in effect. Just my 4 cents. __________________ "Pistol" Pete Dutko

05-09-2013, 08:56 PM	#8
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman No. If sportsmen are pulled away that will be the end. If there were more cars and some paying spectator at division races NHRA would take notice of sportsman racing. Right now the only people in the stands are family and crew members and some of them never leave the big motorhomes or the pits.

05-09-2013, 09:16 PM	#9
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman nhra executives have pulled a few bone headed moves over the years and managed to survive, so far. But they know better than to attempt to separate the Pros and Sportsmen. nhra would be buried under Constitution Avenue. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

05-09-2013, 09:51 PM	#10
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 18 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman Split them up. Sportsman nationals Sat-Sun the week prior to the Pros at each event. More room to park without all the pro cities and restaurants....more racing, less waiting, get it all done in two days....less need for days off work....more competitors per class back to over a hundred like I remember....class at each race....track prep tailored to sportsman needs...no clutch dust...sportsman credentials good for pro race if you want to stay...tear down selected cars after they loose in the eliminator...seal the selected cars at tech....if it rains, you got till next Friday to complete the sportsman portion...never have to come back for a reschedule...save fuel, time, aggravation, and Money. Classes for sportsman portion S, S/S, S/ST, S/G, S/C, Comp for the pros Use T/S, T/D, A/FC, A/D as fillers for the pros. Your boss would be happy with you missing less work. And racers families would be happier that your vacation days would be used for VACATION! LOL Just think about it....no more bitching and fussing about the pros....just racing and having fun again....keep the sportsman money in the sportsman race Wade Mahaffey