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Old 09-04-2013, 04:29 PM   #1
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You guys are all wet about this deal and have your shorts in a bunch over nothing --- who in their right mind would be light in a heads-up final round in the biggest race of their life ? ? ? All this after being weighed a zillion times all week ......not a chance ! ! !
Exactly. No chance either was light. However, NHRA, in the spirit of fairness and finishing the race the right way, should have weighed both cars.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:51 PM   #2
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You never know. Sometimes there isn't time to go to the scales and check your weight. Why have scales if you're not going to use them for a heads-up race???

I won a heads-up race in Chicago one time and I knew I was going to be close on weight, so I pushed the car to the scales after coasting as far as I could. My weight was right on the minimum.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:09 PM   #3
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You guys are all wet about this deal and have your shorts in a bunch over nothing --- who in their right mind would be light in a heads-up final round in the biggest race of their life ? ? ? All this after being weighed a zillion times all week ......not a chance ! ! !
Jack... I respectfully disagree.
Just ask Bryan Worner and Herbie Null. (At the Atco points meet a few weeks ago, These two had a GT/EA headsup run in the third round. As I was told, Herbie pulled out 40 lbs to get to the minumum for the run. He was scaled after beating Bryan and the car was actually 50 lbs lighter - meaning 10lbs light fo rthe run). Bryan was reinstated.

I say ALL headsups should be weighed 100% of the time... and ps.... (It wouldn't hurt for a quick underhood inspection too to see if the correct carb is on the car!!!... don't think that hasn't ever happened).


PS>>>> I also believe Brad was 100% legal on weight
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:53 PM   #4
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I say ALL headsups should be weighed 100% of the time... and ps.... (It wouldn't hurt for a quick underhood inspection too to see if the correct carb is on the car!!!... don't think that hasn't ever happened).
Or a nitrous bottle.lol
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PS>>>> I also believe Brad was 100% legal on weight

I'm curious. Would you have said the same thing about Herbie had they not weighed him after his run against Bryan?
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:11 PM   #6
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You guys are all wet about this deal and have your shorts in a bunch over nothing --- who in their right mind would be light in a heads-up final round in the biggest race of their life ? ? ? All this after being weighed a zillion times all week ......not a chance ! ! !
With this logic, why would you ever weigh (or fuel check) unless they're just barely running the index? The absolute MOST important time to weigh is in a heads-up match, let alone in a final round, let alone at Indy.

Humans are imperfect and make mistakes. I've pulled weight out for Class before and came up light. It happens. People also drain fluids. Does everyone always remember to account for that weight?

There was a heads-up run at Darlington this weekend. One car was either at or 5-over min and the other was 20-25 over and lost by .00x. Weight could've made the difference.

Were both guys good? More than likely. We check because it is the rules, and things happen.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:48 PM   #7
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And then there is the matter of the fuel not being checked on the winner. Even if its been checked all week long, it is important to check it after a heads up run.

Does anyone ever change fuel for a heads up run?
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:48 PM   #8
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That same black Firebird went 11.08 at Indy last year, granted the weather was better. And that 112 mph was off its usual 114+ pace. After seeing the drain pan in the "Live" post I wonder if that could have been a factor in the car laying down and drop in MPH? How much oil was left in the motor?
Mike I think the clutch might of cause some of the problems, qualified at the number 79 in position, ran a best of 11:27, last run 11:56 from a previous 11:51 and with a great 0.06 light the clutch probably went away after the second and third gear. My two cents. Still both cars should have been weight checked, mistake have been known to happen in the excitement. Just imagine if both would have been light by a pound, can happened when you remove oil here and water there or even a bathroom break.lol CR
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