Been Lurking, now ready to ask.

greg fulk · 10-24-2007, 10:26 PM

the wagon set the F/PS records @ Kanahawa Valley 1/8th & Quaker-City 1/4 mile. That would have been back in 04 . I know because I set record @ Kanahawa Valley too & got to come apart right beside him. The car would run under the K/SA index 12.50 12.60 something like that......

njk53 · 10-25-2007, 03:00 PM

You are right. My brother and I (Detroit Bob is my brother) figured the car would be a natural K/SA car. I don't know where I read or heard it but, someone made the comment that he tried to run the car in NHRA as a K/SA and struggled. Couldn't run the numbers to make it competitive. It seems you know of the car, have you heard anything of this statement?

We are just trying to avoid buying a car that won't be competetive in either K/SA or L/SA. We talked to Adger Smith about the combo and he really didn't comment on the combination one way or the other. So, we are asking a lot of opinions.

greg fulk · 10-25-2007, 04:11 PM

give Bruce Parsons a call @ Parsons & Myers......they built or atleast did work on that engine.

njk53 · 10-25-2007, 07:23 PM

My brother and I are going to talk to the owner tonight to get the inside scoop on the whole car. I am not familiar with Parson & Myers, do they build a lot of stocker engines? If they did the engine work I will give them a call. Thanks

Tony Curcio · 10-25-2007, 07:31 PM

The white wagon was a Pure Stocker, the indexes for which are a full second slower than the NHRA Stock indexes. If they entered a Pure Stocker in an NHRA race and ran under the index at all, they were doing quite well.

Among the differences: the Pure Stock cam must check for stock duration and overlap; the stock 80 lb. valve springs must be used; no filled blocks; as well as the OEM type belt-driven water pump, original large pulleys, and steel fan. All of this stuff severely limits the peak rpm and horsepower.

J Gower · 10-25-2007, 11:41 PM

There was a white chevelle wagon at the Edgewater pts. meet (Aug. 2005) that ran 12.56 on the 12.95 index. David Magee from Morningview Ky. if that is the car in question, it was on Racing Juke for sale some time ago.

Dean Feiock · 10-26-2007, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by njk53

You are right. My brother and I (Detroit Bob is my brother) figured the car would be a natural K/SA car. I don't know where I read or heard it but, someone made the comment that he tried to run the car in NHRA as a K/SA and struggled. Couldn't run the numbers to make it competitive. It seems you know of the car, have you heard anything of this statement?

We are just trying to avoid buying a car that won't be competetive in either K/SA or L/SA. We talked to Adger Smith about the combo and he really didn't comment on the combination one way or the other. So, we are asking a lot of opinions.

A wagon would not be in K or L. A wagon would be a natural O car. Weight in O....4895 LBS

Detroit Bob · 10-26-2007, 07:25 AM

Those weights you are quoting are for a Impala, Biscayne wagon, this is a Chevelle, a little lighter around 4200 lbs. This is the David Magee car. A guy in Texas now owns it.

njk53 · 10-26-2007, 08:54 AM

Talked to the owner last night. The car without driver weighs 4262 lbs.
He said the car runs in the 12.50's consistantly on a 13.75 index. That is humid Texas weather. The best time he ran ever was a 12.02. I don't think that is too bad for a pure stocker.

greg fulk · 10-26-2007, 01:12 PM

long story short it's not a pure stocker!! it was kicked out of Div.3 pure stock ! it's the car that made such a stink a few years ago....all he done to make it a pure stock car was add mufflers & stock pulleys to the car!

10-24-2007, 10:26 PM	#1
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Been Lurking, now ready to ask. the wagon set the F/PS records @ Kanahawa Valley 1/8th & Quaker-City 1/4 mile. That would have been back in 04 . I know because I set record @ Kanahawa Valley too & got to come apart right beside him. The car would run under the K/SA index 12.50 12.60 something like that...... __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

10-25-2007, 03:00 PM	#2
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Been Lurking, now ready to ask. You are right. My brother and I (Detroit Bob is my brother) figured the car would be a natural K/SA car. I don't know where I read or heard it but, someone made the comment that he tried to run the car in NHRA as a K/SA and struggled. Couldn't run the numbers to make it competitive. It seems you know of the car, have you heard anything of this statement? We are just trying to avoid buying a car that won't be competetive in either K/SA or L/SA. We talked to Adger Smith about the combo and he really didn't comment on the combination one way or the other. So, we are asking a lot of opinions.

10-25-2007, 04:11 PM	#3
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Been Lurking, now ready to ask. give Bruce Parsons a call @ Parsons & Myers......they built or atleast did work on that engine. __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

10-25-2007, 07:23 PM	#4
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Been Lurking, now ready to ask. My brother and I are going to talk to the owner tonight to get the inside scoop on the whole car. I am not familiar with Parson & Myers, do they build a lot of stocker engines? If they did the engine work I will give them a call. Thanks

10-25-2007, 07:31 PM	#5
Tony Curcio Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 271 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Been Lurking, now ready to ask. The white wagon was a Pure Stocker, the indexes for which are a full second slower than the NHRA Stock indexes. If they entered a Pure Stocker in an NHRA race and ran under the index at all, they were doing quite well. Among the differences: the Pure Stock cam must check for stock duration and overlap; the stock 80 lb. valve springs must be used; no filled blocks; as well as the OEM type belt-driven water pump, original large pulleys, and steel fan. All of this stuff severely limits the peak rpm and horsepower. __________________ Tony Curcio 1860 STK

10-25-2007, 11:41 PM	#6
J Gower Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Leitchfield, Ky. Posts: 130 Likes: 19 Liked 20 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Been Lurking, now ready to ask. There was a white chevelle wagon at the Edgewater pts. meet (Aug. 2005) that ran 12.56 on the 12.95 index. David Magee from Morningview Ky. if that is the car in question, it was on Racing Juke for sale some time ago.

10-26-2007, 07:25 AM	#8
Detroit Bob Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Grosse Pointe Woods Mi Posts: 89 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Been Lurking, now ready to ask. Those weights you are quoting are for a Impala, Biscayne wagon, this is a Chevelle, a little lighter around 4200 lbs. This is the David Magee car. A guy in Texas now owns it.

10-26-2007, 08:54 AM	#9
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Been Lurking, now ready to ask. Talked to the owner last night. The car without driver weighs 4262 lbs. He said the car runs in the 12.50's consistantly on a 13.75 index. That is humid Texas weather. The best time he ran ever was a 12.02. I don't think that is too bad for a pure stocker.

10-26-2007, 01:12 PM	#10
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Been Lurking, now ready to ask. long story short it's not a pure stocker!! it was kicked out of Div.3 pure stock ! it's the car that made such a stink a few years ago....all he done to make it a pure stock car was add mufflers & stock pulleys to the car! __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"