NHRA regulates off track behavior......... - Page 2

Brett C · 02-18-2015, 10:47 PM

Everyone will have their opinion on this, but let us not forget that NHRA was founded by Wally Parks in an effort to get people to stop racing on the streets and in a safe and organized way.

j gardiner · 02-18-2015, 11:03 PM

If street outlaws doesn't represent what NHRA believes in then they should by all means ask that they remove all signage or any reference to NHRA from the show but that is not what they did. They are threatening if they are associated with the show their membership could or would be suspended.

SS Engine Guy · 02-18-2015, 07:05 PM

Take that driving is a privilege statement and see how it holds up in a court with a real lawyer. Operating a motor vehicle in a licensed and legal manner is a right as a tax paying (which built the road) citizen. Know that a judge can not take or suspend your license? Only recommend to the transportation and licensing department that they be revoked for a certain length of time. And then as a US citizen you still have the right to have a review by that entity of whether the suspension, or length of suspension is warranted. Usually gets reduced or no suspension at all. Now back on topic. Maybe if the payouts were more for 6-7 rounds than what you can make in one pass on the street there would be less street racing. Don't take this as promoting street racing. Quit that back in my 20's when a guy rolled a nova on a country road one sat. nite. Luckily the guy wasn't hurt badly, but that crash, and the 45 min. wait for emergency crews ended my street racing days. Get off that wallet sanctioning bodies and pay real money if you want to do something about street racing. 2-3k including contingency is peanuts with what Sportsman racing has become today. We used to win 12-16k at a divisional before the for profit not for profit attitude prevailed and we just kept showing up. Some local tracks are offering grudge night with flashlight starts, no prep and timers turned off but still have to pass safety regs and have emergency crews on duty. Some are even free if you are running your car as a service to their communities. Maybe add some big money grudge racing to events instead of other bs filler. Might draw a crowd? But sanctioning bodies running your life? Not mine. Some very good suggestions have been posted here. Now somebody needs to get off their butt and implement them.

j gardiner · 02-18-2015, 07:18 PM

This is NHRA's problem in a nutshell. They have a whole gang of people in suits, board of directors, marketing department, etc. and they're getting crushed by a bunch of guys who were posting videos on youtube. and the only response they can come up with is threatening letters. No wonder drag racing is in the shape it is in. Maybe instead of banning those guys they should hire them.

Michael K · 02-18-2015, 07:34 PM

Could this be proof that the viewing audience is no longer interested in the NHRA pro categories? They seem to have gravitated towards the common guy and his personal ride......even though it's staged/produced.

SSGT Mustang · 02-18-2015, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Engine Guy

Take that driving is a privilege statement and see how it holds up in a court with a real lawyer. Operating a motor vehicle in a licensed and legal manner is a right as a tax paying (which built the road) citizen.

I suppose. If you're OJ Simpson, you can get the right lawyer to make it look like you didn't kill your wife and her boyfriend. But that's not the point.

Taxpayers own the statehouse, the Whitehouse, whatever. Doesn't mean you can move in or take a piss on the stairs.

You do not have a right to drive. It is a privilege. It can be taken away any time the states wants to. Whether they do or not is irrelevant.

SS Engine Guy · 02-18-2015, 07:57 PM

[quote=SSGT Mustang;462360][QUOTE=SS Engine Guy;462350]Take that driving is a privilege statement and see how it holds up in a court with a real lawyer. Operating a motor vehicle in a licensed and legal manner is a right as a tax paying (which built the road) citizen. [QUOTE]

Taxpayers own the statehouse, the Whitehouse, whatever. Doesn't mean you can move in or take a piss on the stairs.

You do not have a right to drive. It is a privilege. It can be taken away any time the states wants to. Whether they do or not is irrelevant.[Quote]

What the "state" takes away can be overturned by a higher court. All this "politically correct" BS is why we are even talking about this. And while studying up on the law keep in mind that you are only entitled to as much justice as you can afford.

SSGT Mustang · 02-18-2015, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Engine Guy

What the "state" takes away can be overturned by a higher court. All this "politically correct" BS is why we are even talking about this. And while studying up on the law keep in mind that you are only entitled to as much justice as you can afford.

I agree. Sad but true.

V M Kauffman · 02-19-2015, 12:14 PM

The next thing NHRA will want to do is Run the Buggy Races on Amish Mafia!

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Wow.. Great vid! Lol

Backs up what I said.
NHRA blew an opportunity!
Need to get more progressive modern thinkers.

Won only one NHRA points meet.
Took home almost $2000 in 1983.

Insurance rates are sky high. Which does not help!

D

chris ok · 02-19-2015, 12:25 PM

R J and Jeff you get it.
This show is actually getting young men and women talking about cars again. Some will now hear on the radio about the events that have always been advertised and now visit whether being NHRA, IHRA, PDRA, etc....
It's not easy to get people off their butts and out of the house. Might even race a test n tune now they are looking things up thru google, yahoo etc.
It's a reality show, with cars you and I all recognize. And on when families can watch togerther. I bet many dads had cars in their youth and can now tell their kids and maybe even get involved in this slowly fading motorsport.
I like the idea of advertising on Mondays by NHRA, but they missed the idea, maybe rethink this.
ps, as said previously, tracks are hiring the SO's and packing them in for appearances. Best news I've heard in a long time as all we hear are closings lately.
NHRA, I hope you get some motorheads at the helm and come up w a game plan to help our sport, not split it up.

02-18-2015, 10:47 PM	#1
Brett C VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 1,194 Likes: 327 Liked 1,018 Times in 217 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... Everyone will have their opinion on this, but let us not forget that NHRA was founded by Wally Parks in an effort to get people to stop racing on the streets and in a safe and organized way. __________________ Brett Candies 4192 Stock/SS God Bless America

02-18-2015, 11:03 PM	#2
j gardiner Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: waldorf Posts: 220 Likes: 14 Liked 53 Times in 28 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... If street outlaws doesn't represent what NHRA believes in then they should by all means ask that they remove all signage or any reference to NHRA from the show but that is not what they did. They are threatening if they are associated with the show their membership could or would be suspended.

02-18-2015, 07:05 PM	#3
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... Take that driving is a privilege statement and see how it holds up in a court with a real lawyer. Operating a motor vehicle in a licensed and legal manner is a right as a tax paying (which built the road) citizen. Know that a judge can not take or suspend your license? Only recommend to the transportation and licensing department that they be revoked for a certain length of time. And then as a US citizen you still have the right to have a review by that entity of whether the suspension, or length of suspension is warranted. Usually gets reduced or no suspension at all. Now back on topic. Maybe if the payouts were more for 6-7 rounds than what you can make in one pass on the street there would be less street racing. Don't take this as promoting street racing. Quit that back in my 20's when a guy rolled a nova on a country road one sat. nite. Luckily the guy wasn't hurt badly, but that crash, and the 45 min. wait for emergency crews ended my street racing days. Get off that wallet sanctioning bodies and pay real money if you want to do something about street racing. 2-3k including contingency is peanuts with what Sportsman racing has become today. We used to win 12-16k at a divisional before the for profit not for profit attitude prevailed and we just kept showing up. Some local tracks are offering grudge night with flashlight starts, no prep and timers turned off but still have to pass safety regs and have emergency crews on duty. Some are even free if you are running your car as a service to their communities. Maybe add some big money grudge racing to events instead of other bs filler. Might draw a crowd? But sanctioning bodies running your life? Not mine. Some very good suggestions have been posted here. Now somebody needs to get off their butt and implement them.

02-18-2015, 07:18 PM	#4
j gardiner Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: waldorf Posts: 220 Likes: 14 Liked 53 Times in 28 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... This is NHRA's problem in a nutshell. They have a whole gang of people in suits, board of directors, marketing department, etc. and they're getting crushed by a bunch of guys who were posting videos on youtube. and the only response they can come up with is threatening letters. No wonder drag racing is in the shape it is in. Maybe instead of banning those guys they should hire them.

02-18-2015, 07:34 PM	#5
Michael K Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 101 Likes: 89 Liked 62 Times in 17 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... Could this be proof that the viewing audience is no longer interested in the NHRA pro categories? They seem to have gravitated towards the common guy and his personal ride......even though it's staged/produced.

02-18-2015, 07:57 PM	#7
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... [quote=SSGT Mustang;462360][QUOTE=SS Engine Guy;462350]Take that driving is a privilege statement and see how it holds up in a court with a real lawyer. Operating a motor vehicle in a licensed and legal manner is a right as a tax paying (which built the road) citizen. [QUOTE] Taxpayers own the statehouse, the Whitehouse, whatever. Doesn't mean you can move in or take a piss on the stairs. You do not have a right to drive. It is a privilege. It can be taken away any time the states wants to. Whether they do or not is irrelevant.[Quote] What the "state" takes away can be overturned by a higher court. All this "politically correct" BS is why we are even talking about this. And while studying up on the law keep in mind that you are only entitled to as much justice as you can afford. Last edited by SS Engine Guy; 02-18-2015 at 08:14 PM.

02-19-2015, 12:25 PM	#10
chris ok Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Long Island, New york Posts: 592 Likes: 131 Liked 46 Times in 29 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... R J and Jeff you get it. This show is actually getting young men and women talking about cars again. Some will now hear on the radio about the events that have always been advertised and now visit whether being NHRA, IHRA, PDRA, etc.... It's not easy to get people off their butts and out of the house. Might even race a test n tune now they are looking things up thru google, yahoo etc. It's a reality show, with cars you and I all recognize. And on when families can watch togerther. I bet many dads had cars in their youth and can now tell their kids and maybe even get involved in this slowly fading motorsport. I like the idea of advertising on Mondays by NHRA, but they missed the idea, maybe rethink this. ps, as said previously, tracks are hiring the SO's and packing them in for appearances. Best news I've heard in a long time as all we hear are closings lately. NHRA, I hope you get some motorheads at the helm and come up w a game plan to help our sport, not split it up.