NHRA regulates off track behavior......... - Page 2

j gardiner · 02-18-2015, 07:18 PM

This is NHRA's problem in a nutshell. They have a whole gang of people in suits, board of directors, marketing department, etc. and they're getting crushed by a bunch of guys who were posting videos on youtube. and the only response they can come up with is threatening letters. No wonder drag racing is in the shape it is in. Maybe instead of banning those guys they should hire them.

Michael K · 02-18-2015, 07:34 PM

Could this be proof that the viewing audience is no longer interested in the NHRA pro categories? They seem to have gravitated towards the common guy and his personal ride......even though it's staged/produced.

SSGT Mustang · 02-18-2015, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Engine Guy

Take that driving is a privilege statement and see how it holds up in a court with a real lawyer. Operating a motor vehicle in a licensed and legal manner is a right as a tax paying (which built the road) citizen.

I suppose. If you're OJ Simpson, you can get the right lawyer to make it look like you didn't kill your wife and her boyfriend. But that's not the point.

Taxpayers own the statehouse, the Whitehouse, whatever. Doesn't mean you can move in or take a piss on the stairs.

You do not have a right to drive. It is a privilege. It can be taken away any time the states wants to. Whether they do or not is irrelevant.

SS Engine Guy · 02-18-2015, 07:57 PM

[quote=SSGT Mustang;462360][QUOTE=SS Engine Guy;462350]Take that driving is a privilege statement and see how it holds up in a court with a real lawyer. Operating a motor vehicle in a licensed and legal manner is a right as a tax paying (which built the road) citizen. [QUOTE]

Taxpayers own the statehouse, the Whitehouse, whatever. Doesn't mean you can move in or take a piss on the stairs.

You do not have a right to drive. It is a privilege. It can be taken away any time the states wants to. Whether they do or not is irrelevant.[Quote]

What the "state" takes away can be overturned by a higher court. All this "politically correct" BS is why we are even talking about this. And while studying up on the law keep in mind that you are only entitled to as much justice as you can afford.

SSGT Mustang · 02-18-2015, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Engine Guy

What the "state" takes away can be overturned by a higher court. All this "politically correct" BS is why we are even talking about this. And while studying up on the law keep in mind that you are only entitled to as much justice as you can afford.

I agree. Sad but true.

Alan Roehrich · 02-18-2015, 08:36 PM

This is real simple. There were people appearing on the show with NHRA class designations and NHRA competition numbers prominently displayed on their cars, and using their real names. NHRA told them that it was unacceptable to do so. NHRA is well within their rights to do so.

The solution is real simple, too. If you want to appear on the show, simply remove all of your class designations and competition numbers, as well as your name on the car if it is there, and don't use your real name.

I don't often agree with a lot of things NHRA does, but this is well within their rights. They have a right to choose who and what their "brand" is associated with. Like it or not, the competition number and class designation is part of their "brand".

HR9121 · 02-18-2015, 09:13 PM

Alan you hit it dead on.

Nathan Stinson · 02-19-2015, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

This is real simple. There were people appearing on the show with NHRA class designations and NHRA competition numbers prominently displayed on their cars, and using their real names. NHRA told them that it was unacceptable to do so. NHRA is well within their rights to do so.

The solution is real simple, too. If you want to appear on the show, simply remove all of your class designations and competition numbers, as well as your name on the car if it is there, and don't use your real name.

I don't often agree with a lot of things NHRA does, but this is well within their rights. They have a right to choose who and what their "brand" is associated with. Like it or not, the competition number and class designation is part of their "brand".

I highly doubt much of the viewing audience for SO would know what a competition number is and I also doubt that any of those cars had a NHRA class designation on them. As far as using your name goes, I am not too sure that NHRA can control that. The section of the rule book that is quoted in the letter that is going around really makes me wonder how it applies to the show. While I agree NHRA can threaten and defend all they want and a NHRA license is a privilege, the terms participant and event that are mentioned in the letter and section 1.3.1 of the rule book are clearly defined in section 1.1 of the rule book and I struggle to see how it applies to a reality TV show and the guys involved in it. Now I am quite sure that it pi$$es NHRA off that they get more viewers on a Monday night than the event coverage gets on Sunday night (or Monday morning) but I am not sure this is the way to help that situation by threatening a bunch of guys that are pulling in more views and interest than they can generate.

V M Kauffman · 02-19-2015, 12:14 PM

The next thing NHRA will want to do is Run the Buggy Races on Amish Mafia!

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Wow.. Great vid! Lol

Backs up what I said.
NHRA blew an opportunity!
Need to get more progressive modern thinkers.

Won only one NHRA points meet.
Took home almost $2000 in 1983.

Insurance rates are sky high. Which does not help!

D

chris ok · 02-19-2015, 12:25 PM

R J and Jeff you get it.
This show is actually getting young men and women talking about cars again. Some will now hear on the radio about the events that have always been advertised and now visit whether being NHRA, IHRA, PDRA, etc....
It's not easy to get people off their butts and out of the house. Might even race a test n tune now they are looking things up thru google, yahoo etc.
It's a reality show, with cars you and I all recognize. And on when families can watch togerther. I bet many dads had cars in their youth and can now tell their kids and maybe even get involved in this slowly fading motorsport.
I like the idea of advertising on Mondays by NHRA, but they missed the idea, maybe rethink this.
ps, as said previously, tracks are hiring the SO's and packing them in for appearances. Best news I've heard in a long time as all we hear are closings lately.
NHRA, I hope you get some motorheads at the helm and come up w a game plan to help our sport, not split it up.

02-18-2015, 07:18 PM	#1
j gardiner Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: waldorf Posts: 220 Likes: 14 Liked 53 Times in 28 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... This is NHRA's problem in a nutshell. They have a whole gang of people in suits, board of directors, marketing department, etc. and they're getting crushed by a bunch of guys who were posting videos on youtube. and the only response they can come up with is threatening letters. No wonder drag racing is in the shape it is in. Maybe instead of banning those guys they should hire them.

02-18-2015, 07:34 PM	#2
Michael K Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 101 Likes: 89 Liked 62 Times in 17 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... Could this be proof that the viewing audience is no longer interested in the NHRA pro categories? They seem to have gravitated towards the common guy and his personal ride......even though it's staged/produced.

02-18-2015, 07:57 PM	#4
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... [quote=SSGT Mustang;462360][QUOTE=SS Engine Guy;462350]Take that driving is a privilege statement and see how it holds up in a court with a real lawyer. Operating a motor vehicle in a licensed and legal manner is a right as a tax paying (which built the road) citizen. [QUOTE] Taxpayers own the statehouse, the Whitehouse, whatever. Doesn't mean you can move in or take a piss on the stairs. You do not have a right to drive. It is a privilege. It can be taken away any time the states wants to. Whether they do or not is irrelevant.[Quote] What the "state" takes away can be overturned by a higher court. All this "politically correct" BS is why we are even talking about this. And while studying up on the law keep in mind that you are only entitled to as much justice as you can afford. Last edited by SS Engine Guy; 02-18-2015 at 08:14 PM.

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Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,113 Likes: 1,571 Liked 1,826 Times in 414 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... This is real simple. There were people appearing on the show with NHRA class designations and NHRA competition numbers prominently displayed on their cars, and using their real names. NHRA told them that it was unacceptable to do so. NHRA is well within their rights to do so. The solution is real simple, too. If you want to appear on the show, simply remove all of your class designations and competition numbers, as well as your name on the car if it is there, and don't use your real name. I don't often agree with a lot of things NHRA does, but this is well within their rights. They have a right to choose who and what their "brand" is associated with. Like it or not, the competition number and class designation is part of their "brand". __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

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02-19-2015, 12:25 PM	#10
chris ok Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Long Island, New york Posts: 592 Likes: 131 Liked 46 Times in 29 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... R J and Jeff you get it. This show is actually getting young men and women talking about cars again. Some will now hear on the radio about the events that have always been advertised and now visit whether being NHRA, IHRA, PDRA, etc.... It's not easy to get people off their butts and out of the house. Might even race a test n tune now they are looking things up thru google, yahoo etc. It's a reality show, with cars you and I all recognize. And on when families can watch togerther. I bet many dads had cars in their youth and can now tell their kids and maybe even get involved in this slowly fading motorsport. I like the idea of advertising on Mondays by NHRA, but they missed the idea, maybe rethink this. ps, as said previously, tracks are hiring the SO's and packing them in for appearances. Best news I've heard in a long time as all we hear are closings lately. NHRA, I hope you get some motorheads at the helm and come up w a game plan to help our sport, not split it up.