NHRA ProStock changes coming!

[Stocker 2]

Pay attention to the Factory Shootouts at select NHRA events and you will see where the Pro Stock replacement is coming from.

The factory wars are just getting started...........and the crowd goes wild!!!!!

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I'll offer some constructive suggestions for improving Pro Stock.

First, get rid of the goofy bodies, go back to pure production bodies, or bodies in white, checked by templates. All steel. One small spoiler, no wicker bill, no spill plates, set 30 degree angle, body width, 6" tall. Stock wheelbase. Maximum. 6" hood scoop height. Maximum 16" X 33" slick. Fuel injection, 1500 cfm throttle body, maximum of two. No exotic materials in the engine, or anywhere else in the power train. Leave the current 500 cubic inch, 2350#, 5 forward speeds, manually shifted format in place. We're already asking teams to build all new cars and move to fuel injection. Forcing them to an entirely new power train program simply is not economically feasible or fiscally wise.

Make the cars look like production cars with slicks and a small hoodscoop. Fuel injected, since carburetors are apparently an evil relic of the dinosaur era. Leave the 5 year rule in place, two door rear wheel drive sport coupe only.

That allows the current power train programs to remain relatively intact, while moving into the fuel injected era, with cars fans can relate to, and keeping performance close to where it is, with an even set of relatively simple rules that are the same for everyone. Maybe Ford will play, maybe they won't, but if Chevy and Mopar will, then Ford has no excuse.

The new television contract combined with the marketing program should make it more attractive for OE corporations and sponsors.

Like Alan described and limit them to 400 CID small block engines like the Australian Pro Stock classes.

[theman440]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I'll offer some constructive suggestions for improving Pro Stock.

First, get rid of the goofy bodies, go back to pure production bodies, or bodies in white, checked by templates. All steel. One small spoiler, no wicker bill, no spill plates, set 30 degree angle, body width, 6" tall. Stock wheelbase. Maximum. 6" hood scoop height. Maximum 16" X 33" slick. Fuel injection, 1500 cfm throttle body, maximum of two. No exotic materials in the engine, or anywhere else in the power train. Leave the current 500 cubic inch, 2350#, 5 forward speeds, manually shifted format in place. We're already asking teams to build all new cars and move to fuel injection. Forcing them to an entirely new power train program simply is not economically feasible or fiscally wise.

Make the cars look like production cars with slicks and a small hoodscoop. Fuel injected, since carburetors are apparently an evil relic of the dinosaur era. Leave the 5 year rule in place, two door rear wheel drive sport coupe only.

That allows the current power train programs to remain relatively intact, while moving into the fuel injected era, with cars fans can relate to, and keeping performance close to where it is, with an even set of relatively simple rules that are the same for everyone. Maybe Ford will play, maybe they won't, but if Chevy and Mopar will, then Ford has no excuse.

The new television contract combined with the marketing program should make it more attractive for OE corporations and sponsors.

This sounds like the way to go -

[Carguy49]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I'll offer some constructive suggestions for improving Pro Stock.

First, get rid of the goofy bodies, go back to pure production bodies, or bodies in white, checked by templates. All steel. One small spoiler, no wicker bill, no spill plates, set 30 degree angle, body width, 6" tall. Stock wheelbase. Maximum. 6" hood scoop height. Maximum 16" X 33" slick. Fuel injection, 1500 cfm throttle body, maximum of two. No exotic materials in the engine, or anywhere else in the power train. Leave the current 500 cubic inch, 2350#, 5 forward speeds, manually shifted format in place. We're already asking teams to build all new cars and move to fuel injection. Forcing them to an entirely new power train program simply is not economically feasible or fiscally wise.

Make the cars look like production cars with slicks and a small hoodscoop. Fuel injected, since carburetors are apparently an evil relic of the dinosaur era. Leave the 5 year rule in place, two door rear wheel drive sport coupe only.

That allows the current power train programs to remain relatively intact, while moving into the fuel injected era, with cars fans can relate to, and keeping performance close to where it is, with an even set of relatively simple rules that are the same for everyone. Maybe Ford will play, maybe they won't, but if Chevy and Mopar will, then Ford has no excuse.

The new television contract combined with the marketing program should make it more attractive for OE corporations and sponsors.

I like the way you are thinking. This idea might need some refining to make it work, but you are on the right track. With the new S/S cars capable of mid to high 7's, what would it take to run 7.0's or quicker?? The bodies should remain as close to stock as possible (no more goofy bodies), and work on removing unneeded items to lighten them a bit (say 2500 min.) What did P.B.Candies car weigh when it went 7.859 at Indy last year?? Well over 3000 lbs. I am sure.


Danny, I too, liked Pro Stock Truck. Shame on NHRA for getting rid of that program.

[blkjack]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Make the cars look like production cars with slicks and a small hoodscoop. Fuel injected, since carburetors are apparently an evil relic of the dinosaur era. Leave the 5 year rule in place

the five year body rule has been gone or do you want to bring it back?

SECTION 16 - PRO STOCK
DESIGNATION
PRO, preceded by car number.
Reserved for 2005 or later NHRA-accepted 2-door or 4-door
coupe or sedan (domestic or foreign) production vehicles

[Mile High]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

So, your problem with Pro Stock is pretty much that there are no weight breaks or handicaps, everybody gets 500 cubic inches and 2350 pounds, and the same rules, but your favorite OE corporation won't make the effort to compete. So, they need to throw 300 pounds on the Chevrolets, and make them pull a plug wire if they are not racing another Chevrolet. Got it, thanks. Wonder why Alllen Johnson and Mopar don't need that?

Instead of making it where all manufacturers want to participate lets keep it an all GM class and bore everyone silly. Why watch when you know a Camaro is going to win. How competitve has AJ been this season, up until the last race he hasn't. V Gaines is a nice guy but it will take a near miracle for him to get a win. I do wish Ford would get involved. I would watch with more interest. Sorry, just my 2cents.

Jeff

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Mile High

Instead of making it where all manufacturers want to participate lets keep it an all GM class and bore everyone silly. Why watch when you know a Camaro is going to win. How competitve has AJ been this season, up until the last race he hasn't. V Gaines is a nice guy but it will take a near miracle for him to get a win. I do wish Ford would get involved. I would watch with more interest. Sorry, just my 2cents.

Jeff

The class was dying when they were catering the rules to suit a given combination. It does not work. Any brief spike seen in attendance and participation when it is tried is short lived, at best.

The rules are the same for everyone right now. You have 2350 pounds, 500 cubic inches, and 5 manually shifted forward speeds for everyone, GM, Ford, and Chrysler. The only thing keeping Ford out of Pro Stock is Ford, period, plain and simple. It is unfortunate for Ford fans that Ford is not willing to put forth the effort, but that is a decision that Ford has made, despite the efforts of guys such as Morgan and Cunningham, among others.

[CobraJET5.0]

Originally Posted by russellauto1

How about taking away points or fining them for incomplete or abandoned runs. No one wants to sit through a session of 12 out of 16 cars making 60ft runs. Same For FC and TF.

Or give them points for completing the run. Either way, It will get more exciting.

That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. They should drive the cars until they end up in the wall or up side down? Get real dude.

[Dana Fitzpatrick]

Economy,economy,economy.That's the problem,as I see it. All the classes are down,percentage wise,I wonder how the PS counts compare to stk/ss.

[B/SA 187]

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