Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index?

[HR9121]

I saw the pink car had the glove box insulated to hold cold beer, can this be confirmed as a factory option or is this another way y'all are skirting the rules?

[Joseph Teuton]

Originally Posted by HR9121

I saw the pink car had the glove box insulated to hold cold beer, can this be confirmed as a factory option or is this another way y'all are skirting the rules?

This is an option for racers with the three C's (class, cooth, and culture) and proper stem wear. So only distinguished drivers have them! Lmao

[Tom Moock]

Joseph, So Jeff`s Challenger started out as a Drag Pak car and you changed it to a production car, per you said it had no ser. #, do you have same control arms as the Drag Pak? 4 bar or do you have stock control arms per rule book? you didn't answer my question. Tom

[Joseph Teuton]

Originally Posted by Tom Moock

Joseph, So Jeff`s Challenger started out as a Drag Pak car and you changed it to a production car, per you said it had no ser. #, do you have same control arms as the Drag Pak? 4 bar or do you have stock control arms per rule book? you didn't answer my question. Tom

Tom as I stated it has everything Legal as per NHRA tech! Does it matter what I say it had considering it's been to a few races and at everyone someone has tried to get the car thrown out yet NHRA tech approves the cat over and over again. I'm glad to see there are plenty of people not wanting to run this pink car heads up! Exciting! Maybe we should build a few more of these!

[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

I wasn't a Chevy dealer or even alive in 1969. But couldn't you get a cowl hood for a Camaro over the counter or installed on your small block car? I would think you could with all the other options you could get over the counter. So, why did all those cars have to change to the flat hood and try to match paint a few years ago? I'm just asking because I'm uninformed. Please do not curse me out or call me names. Btw, I ran AA this year, and would prefer 10.80.

Hagen because someone cried to Nhra saying that's not legal......its not fair the Chevies are too fast.....we can't keep up......lol...

[Dwight Southerland]

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

I wasn't a Chevy dealer or even alive in 1969. But couldn't you get a cowl hood for a Camaro over the counter or installed on your small block car? I would think you could with all the other options you could get over the counter. So, why did all those cars have to change to the flat hood and try to match paint a few years ago? I'm just asking because I'm uninformed. Please do not curse me out or call me names. Btw, I ran AA this year, and would prefer 10.80.

Since no one chose to answer your question, I will try. The controversy came over whether the ZL-2 hood (cowl hood) option was available as an factory installed option on the 255hp 350 (LM1 engine option code). NHRA ruled it was not and there is some documentation to back it up, so those are the cars that were required to go back to the flat hood.


Supposedly, that ruling came with an indication that NHRA was going to start correcting the illegalities in combinations and allowed parts that had crept into use over time. We have not seen any additional rulings come down, so it's about time for the integrity issues to come back to the surface since it looks like politics, appeasing some whiners, and not a real attempt to correct anything.

[Mark Yacavone]

Back to the topic:
I don't have a chupacabra or even a dog in this fight, nor would I want one, but here's a suggestion:
The racers wanted the 10.60 index, right?
Now some of them don't.
So, somebody contact NHRA and suggest anyone who raced AA/SA or AA/S in the last 12 months, gets a vote via email from tech..
10. 60 or 10.75, at the half year point.
There..easy enough.
I suggest the big Cajun guy makes the contact with NHRA

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Back to the topic:
I don't have a chupacabra or even a dog in this fight, nor would I want one, but here's a suggestion:
The racers wanted the 10.60 index, right?
Now some of them don't.
So, somebody contact NHRA and suggest anyone who raced AA/SA or AA/S in the last 12 months, gets a vote via email from tech..
10. 60 or 10.75, at the half year point.
There..easy enough.
I suggest the big Cajun guy makes the contact with NHRA

No, that is NOT correct. The guys who asked for AA never asked for 10.60, not a single one that I know of, and most of us were discussing this with each other at the time.

When NHRA created the AA/S and AA/SA classes, the A/SA index was 11.30. Len Imbrogno asked the group of racers what index they wanted for AA, and the index agreed upon was 10.90, and no mention was made of lowering the indexes 3 tenths at any time. I'm not seeing anywhere in Stock or Super Stock where a 0.5 pound weight break equaled 4 tenths to begin with. But the guys who asked for AA asked for some room to let the cars run, that we all agreed on. The truth is, when the indexes were lowered, it brought most of the rest of the classes inline with the 10.90 index for AA. At which point lowering the AA index one tenth to 10.80 would have been reasonable, and pretty much acceptable to everyone.

And yeah, right now, we wouldn't vote, due to a myriad of reasons, we've been out for a year or two. However, we were one of the first to roll out with AA/SA on the windshield, and ran it consistently for quite some time.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

No, that is NOT correct. The guys who asked for AA never asked for 10.60, not a single one that I know of, and most of us were discussing this with each other at the time.

When NHRA created the AA/S and AA/SA classes, the A/SA index was 11.30. Len Imbrogno asked the group of racers what index they wanted for AA, and the index agreed upon was 10.90, and no mention was made of lowering the indexes 3 tenths at any time. I'm not seeing anywhere in Stock or Super Stock where a 0.5 pound weight break equaled 4 tenths to begin with. But the guys who asked for AA asked for some room to let the cars run, that we all agreed on. The truth is, when the indexes were lowered, it brought most of the rest of the classes inline with the 10.90 index for AA. At which point lowering the AA index one tenth to 10.80 would have been reasonable, and pretty much acceptable to everyone.

And yeah, right now, we wouldn't vote, due to a myriad of reasons, we've been out for a year or two. However, we were one of the first to roll out with AA/SA on the windshield, and ran it consistently for quite some time.

I was afraid someone would say they have been out for a year.
Okay, make it two years then.
Carry on...

[Tom Moock]

GUMP, Jeff`s challenger Runs A,B,C/SA, is not racing as a Drag Pak car, Different rules on rear suspension on stock production cars per rule book, look it up.Tom