Is this a mistake?

[Tom Moock]

The only different is they change the glass & add glove box in drag pack car and the motor is out of a street car. Rule book says no 4 bar set up in normal stock. That is what I was told, I`m no expert on this.

[Jim Bailey]

Hate to say I told you so ...But, "I TOLD YOU SO". ... Eight years ago when Mopar announced the Drag Pac factory race car, ( This was before the Cobra Jet and Copo ), - I SAID," This is a perfect time for NHRA to make AA/Stock an all paper car class. These factory built race cars - Shelbys, Nascar Hemi's, and ALL FACTORY BUILT RACE CARS, should ONLY be able to run AA/Stock. -"You all laughed"...! Four years ago - I SAID, " If you guys think that Factory Built Race Cars will be kept out of conventional Stock Eliminator you're examining your tonsils from your back side, AND, you won't wake up until there's a under factored new car in your class."You all laughed". (That guy's smelt too many nitro fumes they said)... Well here we are!.....And this isn't over by a long shot ... The Copo's aren't even involved -YET- with their showroom engine combos ------ If you can't beat 'em , join 'em.

[Billy Nees]

It's all just turned into ET-2 anyway. No more tech, no more teardowns, not even any acknowledgement of National Records. Next is going to be Edelbrock intakes for everybody! And I told you so on that one.

[Jim Bailey]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

you guys better read it closer
FS is only for 2008-2017 COPO ,DP's and Cobra Jets (no Street cars)
1955-2017 Street cars stay in regular stock and superstock as they should.

And in typical NHRA fashion they stopped short in their rule proposal / writing, leaving a grey area for Racers to exploit ; What would have be wrong with :

FS is only for 2008-2017 COPO, Drag Paks, and Cobra Jets, identified by their production/build plate...( no street cars )
1955-2017 Street Cars with factory vin numbers stay in conventional stock or super stock (as they should) Show room Camaros, Challengers, and Mustangs with NHRA approved engine combinations included. All combos must meet NHRA's stock specs for year, make, and model, including suspension, and safety per the NHRA rulebook. *
* No COPO's, Drag Paks, or Cobra Jets in conventional (AA -V) stock classes.

Maybe that's a little to clear.

The problem with "Stock Elim " today is - it's not about doing the right thing, or correct parts, or even what's correct ethically. ... it's about what you can get approved. That's a simple money trail .... follow the money trail ... you'll always find your answer.

[Andys dad]

You guys are a little slow - kevin has been running the combination all year.

Wait until you find out what other surprises are lurking in the class guide.

Ford and Chevrolet will not be far behind.

Let the games begin.


Ron

Re: Is this a mistake?
You bet ur ***** it is. There is not an A car on the planet that can run with an FS car in AA or any other class. Write and Write NHRA some more. Bend some ears!

[Alan Roehrich]

I'm not completely thrilled with the idea, but if it is a legitimate production street combination, a car that meets ALL federal emissions and safety standards, sold to the general public to be driven on public roads, put it in the guide to run regular classes.

The rules are the rules. Now, rate them reasonable. Not soft, but not so hard that no one will build one.

But the factory race cars need to be in their own division of Super Stock, or Comp.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I'm not completely thrilled with the idea, but if it is a legitimate production street combination, a car that meets ALL federal emissions and safety standards, sold to the general public to be driven on public roads, put it in the guide to run regular classes.

There you go.
The VIN thing is not even an issue to me. There are still plenty of 307 Cutlasses around with no VIN.

But... The (former FX) cars should go by the same exact rules as the pre- 2008 cars, of all makes and models.

I guess I'm not going to get an answer to my previous questions. I also guess that IS the answer.

[Pistol Pete]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I'm not completely thrilled with the idea, but if it is a legitimate production street combination, a car that meets ALL federal emissions and safety standards, sold to the general public to be driven on public roads, put it in the guide to run regular classes.

The rules are the rules. Now, rate them reasonable. Not soft, but not so hard that no one will build one.

But the factory race cars need to be in their own division of Super Stock, or Comp.

I looked up a 2015 Camaro in the class guide. If they came with a V6 to be street legal, how come these engines are not in the guide to run in a Regular Stock Class ???
I think that ALL CARS NEWER than 2008 should be in an FS Class.

[mtkawboy]

There are cars with a VIN in factory stock too