1966 Ply Belvedere

[amxron]

Weren't all those WO/RO cars 2dr hdt's, not post sedans?

[Dwight Southerland]

The Chrysler contingency has the ability to get NHRA to see history through their eyes.

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus

Steve, you are correct. The '66's never came off the assy. line with hood scoops. -Al

I know I am. I have a '66 Hemi Coronet Sedan. It's been a race car since it was a month old, no scoop. The scoop being used on the '66 cars was not available until the Spring of '67.

amxron, Correct. The '67 R/W cars were hardtops only. Belvedere II, and Coronet 440's.

[Rat Patrol]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

1966 Hemi Plymouths are not rare. 1966 is the highest production model year for all 426 Hemi cars from 1966-71.

As far as the scoop thing...

There are some internal memos floating around that describe a proposed package for the 1966 model year. It never got any further than that though. There was never any paperwork or information released to the public. The '67 car package is similar to the '66 package, but a little more tamed down. I seem to recall that the '66 package was to include a '65 style engine, I may be wrong on that though.

As far as the hood scoop, they were all steel on the '67 cars, and even the '65 cars for that matter. The '65 and '67 scoops are different. As for fiberglass scoops, it's either a repop or a '65 A/FX scoop, which would be noticeably different than the standard '67 scoop.

I do not agree with scoops on the '66 cars, and I'm a Mopar guy. The scoop does not offer much for a performance advantage in the way of "fresh" air, but in S/S I guess it would help with a taller intake if one would go that route.

Side note...I don't believe the '67 package cars were officially announced until very late '66, if not early '67. From my research, Sox and Landy were running standard hood cars at the AHRA Winters, and NHRA Winters in '67. I have determined that RO/WO production did not start until late February or early March of '67, and lasted for 6-8 weeks in small batches. While the cars did have sequential Shipping Order numbers, the VIN number spread between the earliest and latest cars I have recorded is quite large dispelling the "two batch" theory that has been purported by many.

Absolutely correct. Nosuch thing as an ‘RO23’ 66. Vanke didn’t mod the intake until end of year 66 - all 67RO23s were built Feb16 1967.....

That guys story about a ‘66’ RO23 has holes all the way through - Maybe his was a ‘super duty’ Belvedere? ......

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

Absolutely correct. Nosuch thing as an ‘RO23’ 66. Vanke didn’t mod the intake until end of year 66 - all 67RO23s were built Feb16 1967.....

That guys story about a ‘66’ RO23 has holes all the way through - Maybe his was a ‘super duty’ Belvedere? ......

All R0 cars were not built on that date, if you have proof that says otherwise, please share it. I have worked with a couple '67 R0 owners to put together as much VIN/Shipping Order data as possible (currently over 50% of built cars), and can comfortably say that these cars were built in packs over the course of a few weeks.

These cars have a spread of 16,000 numbers from the lowest VIN '67 R0/W0 to the highest vin. While it has been proven that Chrysler did not assemble cars in sequential vin order, the spread on these cars is much too far apart them to have been built within the same day, or even week for that matter. The shipping order numbers do seem to be sequential on the other hand, which would tell me that Chrysler set aside 110 car orders, to be filled as the units were sold/ordered by their respective dealers. The shipping order numbers do not directly correlate with the VIN numbers in any way.

[Rat Patrol]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

All R0 cars were not built on that date, if you have proof that says otherwise, please share it. I have worked with a couple '67 R0 owners to put together as much VIN/Shipping Order data as possible (currently over 50% of built cars), and can comfortably say that these cars were built in packs over the course of a few weeks.

These cars have a spread of 16,000 numbers from the lowest VIN '67 R0/W0 to the highest vin. While it has been proven that Chrysler did not assemble cars in sequential vin order, the spread on these cars is much too far apart them to have been built within the same day, or even week for that matter. The shipping order numbers do seem to be sequential on the other hand, which would tell me that Chrysler set aside 110 car orders, to be filled as the units were sold/ordered by their respective dealers. The shipping order numbers do not directly correlate with the VIN numbers in any way.

Only going on what Jim Schilds book ‘Maximum Performance’ states - Page 117 in the ‘Tech Specs’ plate.

‘Since all RO/WO cars were built on Feb 12, the build date code will be 212’.

I did say Feb 16...my bad.

So clearly he has a different understanding to yours.

Anyhow, my main reason for dredging this thread up was to kill the myth that the ‘O23’ induction package was available in 66-

Damn...the cars weren’t even ready for the 67 Winternats!