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Old 11-28-2018, 10:13 PM   #1
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Auto racing isn't alone here. The only forms of racing that seem viable are the ones that allow on track betting. You can bet on NASCAR, but not from the stands.
The modern auto on the street has little resemblance to what we tow to the track. Cars are not fun extensions of a personality anymore, they are comfy rolling offices. Honestly, I'm glad racing still exists as a hobby.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:28 AM   #2
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None of the cars going around the track are even close to anything the auto companies build. They all look the same.
Sounds like Ha Ha cars and Pro Stock !
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:38 AM   #3
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A beautifully written post. You are a glass-is-half-full guy, and I am not, but I would be very, very happy to be proven wrong in my belief that the traditional American way of life is slowly fading."

The only thing I disagree with you on , is that "The traditional American way of life" is NOT slowly fading, but rather, QUICKLY fading.
On a side note, I'm so tired of the propaganda of the nightly news, I don't even watch anymore.
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None of the cars going around the track are even close to anything the auto companies build. They all look the same.
When I was in Charlotte last year at the Nascar HOF, they had two cars "halved" to show how true they were to the production version. Look at the difference between Richard Petty's 92 Grand Prix to an actual one vs. The "Nascamry" to its production counterpart....




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Old 11-29-2018, 12:45 PM   #5
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Very interesting to look at those two Pontiac cars kinda look similar front and rear but the Toyota is not even close----what does a side silhouette of both cars look like ---since 5 Star I believe makes all the bodies for Nascar other than a decal (Ford/Chevy/Toyota ) on the front or rear its probably the same basic shape
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:48 PM   #6
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NHRA is the Titanic and the leaders don’t even realize they have hit an iceberg.
I think they do know, how could they not ! They have their golden lifeboats ready and could care less about everyone else.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:04 PM   #7
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Understand how this relates to NHRA; their appeal to the "fictional casual race fan" is primarily oriented around going insane speeds, making lots of noise and interjecting some personalities in order to get them in the stands. By doing that the backbone of the sport and hard core fans suffer. NHRA's stated interest in helping with escalating costs is lip service, who in the heck ever let these cars get so fast and expensive anyway? The few well funded teams have sponsors that watch a sub-par TV presentation and ever declining attendance. You think they can put up with that business model forever? Think a kitty litter producer can keep up with escalating costs? Is nostalgia funny cars, gassers, no-prep and others less entertaining? Can you imagine the crowd response if they put some old modified eliminator cars out there for a exhibition?

NHRA is out of control, an out of touch leadership team that knows little to nothing about what made the sport great and it's remaining core of racers who continue in the Sportsman classes, only four of whom at most from each class are in the Sunday show.
Great post, Jim.
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:33 PM   #8
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Understand how this relates to NHRA; their appeal to the "fictional casual race fan" is primarily oriented around going insane speeds, making lots of noise and interjecting some personalities in order to get them in the stands. By doing that the backbone of the sport and hard core fans suffer. NHRA's stated interest in helping with escalating costs is lip service, who in the heck ever let these cars get so fast and expensive anyway? The few well funded teams have sponsors that watch a sub-par TV presentation and ever declining attendance. You think they can put up with that business model forever? Think a kitty litter producer can keep up with escalating costs? Is nostalgia funny cars, gassers, no-prep and others less entertaining? Can you imagine the crowd response if they put some old modified eliminator cars out there for a exhibition?

NHRA is out of control, an out of touch leadership team that knows little to nothing about what made the sport great and it's remaining core of racers who continue in the Sportsman classes, only four of whom at most from each class are in the Sunday show.

Well said.


NHRA is abandoning the hard core old school fan for the casual fan mentioned above, just as NASCAR did, and truck/tractor pulling before.
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Its dying because 98% of the people in this country believe the piston is dead.
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:43 PM   #10
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I agree.

NASCAR has become a shell of what it once was and they know it. NHRA on the other hand has no clue.
But, I believe the NHRA must connect with generations Y and Z by showcasing the current Detroit muscle cars with a "new" Pro Stock (FSS) along with the classic muscle cars (Stock & Super Stock). Events like the HEMI Challenge and others would only enhance the show.
Regular National events also should limit Top Fuel and Funny Car to 8 car fields.
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