Oil Filter Comparison - Page 2

Bob Mulry · 12-27-2018, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman

Why do people use a filter with an anti-drainback valve if their filter isn't mounted sideways or upside down?

Hi,

If the filter is located higher than the level of the oil in the pan, it will seek its own level..

This is called the siphon effect and will empty the filter, oil galleries, lifters and everything else in the oil circuit and drain it to the oil pan..

Bob

Mark Yacavone · 12-27-2018, 08:26 PM

I wish I saw this about two weeks ago.
I never used Fram..Always AC, since I worked at a Pontiac dealer, many moons ago. They used to have AC at Walmart, as well as Fram.

Anyway, I went to W/M to get some oil and filter for the ol' 460 motor home. I grabbed a Fram filter to replace the one on there from last year. That's pretty much all they have now.

The 460 filter sticks out in the front, as some of you know. I still put about a half qt. in it , before tipping it up into place. I spilled some oil on top of the anti- drain back valve. I tried to push the valve open with a little pick, and it was real hard and would barely open. It seemed like plastic or some kind of compressed garbage.
Now I know why...It is!
Never again.

FED 387 · 12-28-2018, 12:07 AM

Just remember regardless whose oil filter you purchase basically only 4 large companies make all of the oil filters in the WORLD for everybody--The Rank Group ---Mann-Hummel------Kuefner Filters----Parker Hannifin corporation--FED 387

SSGN · 12-28-2018, 08:44 AM

Interested in more info on these K&P filters. I remember the system 1 but never tried them .I have always used the Wix/Napa Gold series .
Thanks

carl hinkson · 12-28-2018, 10:46 AM

Have used the NAPA/Wix non R filters for years with no bypass, Have seen the difference between using a filter with a 61 Micron and using a filter with 21 micron rating.

Signman · 12-28-2018, 11:29 AM

Did some research on oil filters a few years ago.

Micron rating on filter paper is an "average" opening size meaning there are larger and smaller openings.

Higher quality = tighter range of size of openings.

Screen filters offer a tighter range in opening size particularly those of medical grade stainless steel plus can actually flow more oil with less restriction.

There's a few HP there.

12-27-2018, 08:26 PM	#2
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,814 Likes: 2,903 Liked 5,118 Times in 1,950 Posts	Re: Oil Filter Comparison I wish I saw this about two weeks ago. I never used Fram..Always AC, since I worked at a Pontiac dealer, many moons ago. They used to have AC at Walmart, as well as Fram. Anyway, I went to W/M to get some oil and filter for the ol' 460 motor home. I grabbed a Fram filter to replace the one on there from last year. That's pretty much all they have now. The 460 filter sticks out in the front, as some of you know. I still put about a half qt. in it , before tipping it up into place. I spilled some oil on top of the anti- drain back valve. I tried to push the valve open with a little pick, and it was real hard and would barely open. It seemed like plastic or some kind of compressed garbage. Now I know why...It is! Never again. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

12-28-2018, 12:07 AM	#3
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,418 Likes: 523 Liked 332 Times in 180 Posts	Re: Oil Filter Comparison Just remember regardless whose oil filter you purchase basically only 4 large companies make all of the oil filters in the WORLD for everybody--The Rank Group ---Mann-Hummel------Kuefner Filters----Parker Hannifin corporation--FED 387

12-28-2018, 08:44 AM	#4
SSGN Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 644 Likes: 131 Liked 140 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Oil Filter Comparison Interested in more info on these K&P filters. I remember the system 1 but never tried them .I have always used the Wix/Napa Gold series . Thanks __________________ The more people I meet the more I like my dog Kevin

12-28-2018, 10:46 AM	#5
carl hinkson Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NORTHEAST Posts: 287 Likes: 1 Liked 18 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Oil Filter Comparison Have used the NAPA/Wix non R filters for years with no bypass, Have seen the difference between using a filter with a 61 Micron and using a filter with 21 micron rating.

12-28-2018, 11:29 AM	#6
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Oil Filter Comparison Did some research on oil filters a few years ago. Micron rating on filter paper is an "average" opening size meaning there are larger and smaller openings. Higher quality = tighter range of size of openings. Screen filters offer a tighter range in opening size particularly those of medical grade stainless steel plus can actually flow more oil with less restriction. There's a few HP there. __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"