Karma's A Wonderful Thing.....

[Nmbr1GMfan]

When I can't figure out what's going on I just listen or turn around and look.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

2. Now as for you Mark Y., As for this situation, why wouldn't someone try to burn down another racer, the benefit would be if he/she was within a tenth of their dial, this would make them further away from it, and don't tell me that it's BS or a conspiracy that racers do it, because I've seen it with my own eyes, and not just from the pros, or on t.v.!

You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind; a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination - Next stop, the Twilight Zone!"

[Dave Noll]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

but that guy got what he flipping deserved for disrespecting me like that! As for this situation, why wouldn't someone try to burn down another racer,

DISRESPECTING you because he lifted?

WOW

We play a numbers game in this sport that we all participate in.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Dave Noll

DISRESPECTING you because he lifted?

WOW

We play a numbers game in this sport that we all participate in.

Dave you should know the difference between lifting and clicking off your motor, and you say WOW to me....REALLY???? SMH

[HR9121]

I really hope hope if that guy runs you again he treats you with respect you deserve. Like maybe riding you like a stuck hog ripping the gas 20 times while keeping about 7 or 8 thou in front. Now that's repect!

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by HR9121

I really hope hope if that guy runs you again he treats you with respect you deserve. Like maybe riding you like a stuck hog ripping the gas 20 times while keeping about 7 or 8 thou in front. Now that's repect!

Given that's what most racers do when they catch a slower car fairly easily, that's just good racing, unlike what Dave was commenting on. When you put your tranny in neutral, turn off your engine, and coast to the finish line, that's BS, but I got the last laugh by stealing victory from defeat. In that same race I got paired up with Jody Lang in the 3rd round, and he lifted, didn't shut off his engine, and once he saw I was closing in on him, he got back on his pedal to keep his lead. That was more classy than that D5 guy from S.D.

As for you Mark, I look forward to seeing you too, but you also are an interesting fella. Unlike Billy Nees who met me and offered a cheap (actually free) ideal that actually improved my cars performance, you instead are critical(with exception to the header referrence), but everybody's told me that, and they're not cheap....and I haven't forgotten you bragging about your car being so much quicker than mine (and belittling the small but noticeable improvement I got from it, in comparison to your cars extra performance prowess), and Billy's asking you "Is that a challenge"? Oh yeah, you backed off then! So I've got one for you....when's your car coming back out to play with mine and Chucks, and all of the other D7 Stockers? The October points meet is about 4.5 months away....you going to bring it out then? Moreover, since you (for now) are the only pilot of a FWD Stocker to win a national event, if you do come out, how about it being with YOU behind the wheel???? Winning races with a FWD car is a lot harder nowadays than it was in '86, because back in the 80's Wheelie bars were only on Super Stockers, there was no Cal-Tracs, and manual tranny shifters were mostly (if not totally), "H" patterned, instead of inline. I proved past success to be true, by winning a High School Reunion bracket race in 1990 with a 4cyl, fwd auto, Chevy Celebrity....1st my bracket, then the King of the Hill Championship over the other three class winners! It was much easier to win then than it has been this century, so how about it, what do you say....will it be there, with you behind the wheel, going up against Chuck, Leo, Nanette, Jerry, Bob, Ryan, et.al.???? Let's see how you'd do today!!!!

[Dave Noll]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Dave you should know the difference between lifting and clicking off your motor, and you say WOW to me....REALLY???? SMH

Yes, I know the difference. They both slow the car. Clicking off the motor in the lights is used for a plug check. (these days for those that don't use a wideband)

So the "clicking it" was disrespectful? I seriously doubt it was meant that way. Yes its ......... possible.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Dave Noll

Yes, I know the difference. They both slow the car. Clicking off the motor in the lights is used for a plug check. (these days for those that don't use a wideband)

So the "clicking it" was disrespectful? I seriously doubt it was meant that way. Yes its ......... possible.

Yes it's possible because as I stated earlier but you didn't interpret it correctly, the engine was clicked around the 900-1000ft mark, thus 320-420ft from "the lights". Lifting your pedal (with the tranny still in high gear and the engine running), actually slows down your car quicker than clicking your engine and/or placing your tranny in neutral and coasting, try it sometime you'll see. Thus, I will stick with my opinion, since the guy didn't click his motor off in the lights. I don't race that way, because I have more respect for my opponent than that, and hopefully (if he's still racing nowadays), he isn't doing it anymore either....

Time to get my budget together for my fall races, and for hopeful performance improvements that I can pay for, since I don't have the mechanical smarts of Mark or Billy when it comes to making slow running cars run 1sec under their cars indexes.... thank God for overtime!!!!

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Now that I've seen what Chuck had to say about what really happened, let me say that I feel better knowing that he didn't try to burn my car down, he truly had an issue with it. Sorry for your misfortune Chuck, but I thought about why I posted this thread, and based on the replies I got from Mark, James W. & P., Keith, 1320, Hacksaw, Jeff, and Brian, here's my replies to all of you:

1. Chuck, I'm glad you came on here and offered your side of the story, and I'm sorry for your cars issue(s). I couldn't see what was going on with your car, only others who were there watching us, can speak to that. We'll race again, and hopefully it's a better race next time.

2. Now as for you Mark Y., and James W., if you want to know about belittling another racer, let me take you back to the '98 Mile High Nationals where my 1st rnd opponent knew I wasn't able to run the index there, so when he caught me prior to the 1000ft clocks, he clicked his motor and coasted to the finish line. Trouble for him was, I didn't lift just because he passed me, and "Winston Vision" showed me gaining back the lead he got on me, and nipping him at the stripe by .003! Call it lucky, call it karma, call it whatever you want but that guy got what he flipping deserved for disrespecting me like that! As for this situation, why wouldn't someone try to burn down another racer, the benefit would be if he/she was within a tenth of their dial, this would make them further away from it, and don't tell me that it's BS or a conspiracy that racers do it, because I've seen it with my own eyes, and not just from the pros, or on t.v.!

3. As for you Keith, was I too harsh? Now that I know what Chucks side of it was, I'll take him on his word and admit that I was a bit harsh, but since he also brought a comment into this thread that doesn't belong in this forum, but in "The Lounge", make of that what you will, but it had no place here!

4. As for you 1320 & Hacksaw, let me say that I know I've lost a lot of 1st rounds, but I've won several too starting with comment #2 above. As for my words and glee, of course I'm going to be happy to win, and especially if someone tried to do something underhanded to get an unfair advantage, instead of us both being fair racers with each other. Again, now that I've read what Chuck had to say I'll take my win light, and be grateful for my luck (Brian).

5. To you Jeff, no I don't feel I jinxed myself, because when I go to race someone I will do my best to race them the way I hope they would race me, and both my 1st and 3rd round opponent's did that. Chuck had good intentions, but his car didn't cooperate. I apply the "Golden Rule" to my opponent, and I want to believe he/she will do the same.

6. James Perrone, my luck won't run out, because I keep trying to get better at racing my car, and each racer I line up against. You make your luck by putting forth the effort.

7. Brian, I took my win lights, and I plan to take more of them, but this was a credible thread to post, because although it wasn't relevant in the mentioned race with Chuck, there's a reason why the 7sec. staging rule was implemented, and NHRA has seen plenty of them, and as I said earlier, the pros were not the only ones giving just cause to it.

Thank you all for the comments, and Dave was pretty much spot on.

Gary, with all due respect....Save the DRAMA for the theatre, and for once in your life....can we get through an entire thread without you mentioning The Mile High Nationals race that occurred over two decades ago......Geez !! ...If I ever get out west again,....I have got to look you up....REGARDS....

[Sean Marconette]

If something happens at the track why not track down the person that was in the other lane and have a face to face conversation and get their side of the story? It's another way of meeting a fellow class racer and potentially making a friend. After all, most of us go to the track to have fun and interact with others with the same passion. Life's too short.