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Old 10-04-2019, 06:05 PM   #1
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After seeing multiple incidents of oil downs over the years, I made the decision to put a diaper on both my bracket car AND my stocker. For me it’s about my own safety. I have personally had an occasion where I wished I had one( popped an oil line and got oil under the tires , saved the car but scary all the same).
I use the generic fit ones from summit/jegs. They don’t interfere with anything and only take minutes to install. I would have to pull my engine for a rod/ piston pull any way.
My friends use the DRE brand on some of their cars. Excellent product.
Safer is not sorry in my opinion. No downside to this accessory for me.
Your tune might change and if you couldn’t fit one. I’d install one of DRE’s without question but unfortunately all chassis/pans/headers are not the same. I’ve even had diapers enable me to make a final when I had a water pump gasket start leaking.
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:43 PM   #2
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Well I don't think I've ever seen a stocker oil the track. However at the Dutch on Friday afternoon a blue 69 camaro did a moonshot wheelstand and upon landing pitched out what appeared to be the trans blanket. That was something new in my world.


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Old 10-04-2019, 10:33 PM   #3
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We had a Jr. Dragster oil the track this year. Last weekend it was a Stick car that split the trans case. Numerous rear end explosions, auto trans blowups, oil line leaks and rad hose failures. I'd think engine failures are becoming a lot less with improved and accepted parts.

I'm all for safety but how many Diapers should be on a race car anyway. If you want to run one then fine, but I don't, probably can't fit one and don't think making them mandatory is a good move.
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Well I don't think I've ever seen a stocker oil the track. However at the Dutch on Friday afternoon a blue 69 camaro did a moonshot wheelstand and upon landing pitched out what appeared to be the trans blanket. That was something new in my world.


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Are you referring to this ?? Blue Camaro was in the left lane. Debris was in the right lane, but may have originated from either car.
Does not look like 1969 Camaro to me, but maybe more than one car pitched its safety gear off mid track.
First time I'd ever seen this happen.
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Old 10-06-2019, 08:17 AM   #5
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Are you referring to this ?? Blue Camaro was in the left lane. Debris was in the right lane, but may have originated from either car.
Does not look like 1969 Camaro to me, but maybe more than one car pitched its safety gear off mid track.
First time I'd ever seen this happen.
That looks like it. Thought it was a 69. Obviously not. Guess I am not a good eye witness.

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Old 10-06-2019, 09:38 AM   #6
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We had a D1 race where 3 Stockers oiled the track during the first Qualifying shot. I myself have oiled it twice. First when I bought the car I was the first car down the track at No Problem and spit a rod out at bat mid track broke the trans driveshaft and pinion yoke too. Shut the track down for almost 2 hours. So yes it does happen.
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:07 AM   #7
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After looking at the B-E body engine, steering, and headers on my stocker, it would be a lot of work and expense. The drag link runs real close to the sump and the bottom of pan, this could be a potential crash if the Kevlar blanket jams the steering. A motor plate would not help the steering situation. A tray might work until a big wheel stand. When that happens on my car it bends the oil pan against the pickup, and bends the transmission pan. The oil pan I have to fix before I make the next run. If new ss headers are needed to complete the ORD I will be done.
All of a sudden cutting bait doesn't look so bad.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:35 AM   #8
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After looking at the B-E body engine, steering, and headers on my stocker, it would be a lot of work and expense. The drag link runs real close to the sump and the bottom of pan, this could be a potential crash if the Kevlar blanket jams the steering. A motor plate would not help the steering situation. A tray might work until a big wheel stand. When that happens on my car it bends the oil pan against the pickup, and bends the transmission pan. The oil pan I have to fix before I make the next run. If new ss headers are needed to complete the ORD I will be done.
All of a sudden cutting bait doesn't look so bad.
I must have done something wrong on my '64 Dodge when I put the engine diaper on it. I have the factory K-frame, steering, and torsion bars. Using 1 3/4" Hooker S/C headers (one tube through fenderwell). I fit a universal Jeg's diaper on the car without issue, though I did have to get creative with some of the mounting points for the support straps to hold it up.

I wasn't real fond of putting it on, but when the rules require it (I ran the car in S/ST a few times...ex-SS car), you find a way to make it work if you want to race.

While the Jeg's diaper doesn't provide the best fit, I can only imagine how much better the job would have been had I used something that was designed for the car.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:48 AM   #9
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After looking at the B-E body engine, steering, and headers on my stocker, it would be a lot of work and expense. The drag link runs real close to the sump and the bottom of pan, this could be a potential crash if the Kevlar blanket jams the steering. A motor plate would not help the steering situation. A tray might work until a big wheel stand. When that happens on my car it bends the oil pan against the pickup, and bends the transmission pan. The oil pan I have to fix before I make the next run. If new ss headers are needed to complete the ORD I will be done.
All of a sudden cutting bait doesn't look so bad.
Larry I love your pink car. And I'm jealous of all the races you get to go to. But if you were to cut bait could Patsy still go and report. Class racing would not be the same without her. Barry
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:12 AM   #10
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We had a D1 race where 3 Stockers oiled the track during the first Qualifying shot. I myself have oiled it twice. First when I bought the car I was the first car down the track at No Problem and spit a rod out at bat mid track broke the trans driveshaft and pinion yoke too. Shut the track down for almost 2 hours. So yes it does happen.
Excessive RPM's will do it every time. Now you have solid lifters to go along with the killer valve springs and excessive duration cams and roller rockers, etc. ! What else would you expect unless you spend several thousand more dollars to build modified and S/S wanna be engines. You get what you wanted !

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